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Seems fairly obvious to me, I'm not sure I can explain it any clearer.LaFlorecita said:
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Oh Red Rick.
There were discussions over who caused it, I just felt to chime in on the matter as well. Thats why I wrote 'for what it is worth', implying, it doesnt really matter.
I know you dislike me. Strongly. I don't like you either, but keep it classy. You are taking subtle shots at me over and over since I am more sceptic of AC than most and call it how I see it.
Red Rick said:
Oh Red Rick.
There were discussions over who caused it, I just felt to chime in on the matter as well. Thats why I wrote 'for what it is worth', implying, it doesnt really matter.
I know you dislike me. Strongly. I don't like you either, but keep it classy. You are taking subtle shots at me over and over since I am more sceptic of AC than most and call it how I see it.
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Please don't clog the thread with letters to people that have nothing to do with the subject of the thread.
TIA.
This should have been sent as a PM.Valv.Piti said:
Please don't clog the thread with letters to people that have nothing to do with the subject of the thread.
TIA.
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As for his positioning, are you aware that the peloton was really nervous because of possible echelons which meant GC contenders tried to be at the front?
It seemed to me it was the crash that got him trapped against the traffic island. Are you saying he was stupid for crashing? Do you suppose he chose to go down there?King Boonen said:
As for his positioning, are you aware that the peloton was really nervous because of possible echelons which meant GC contenders tried to be at the front?
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On Tour webpage there is a small article as well where he says that his tour doesn't end here.
Miburo said:Contador will be fine, i'm never wrong on the guy
On Tour webpage there is a small article as well where he says that his tour doesn't end here.
Holy god, again. It is not possible.
The only positive aspect is that the most damage is on the shoulder and not on the knee. there is time to recover up to the Pyrenees
The only positive aspect is that the most damage is on the shoulder and not on the knee. there is time to recover up to the Pyrenees
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Contador probably needs his shoulders as much as his knees with his distinct out of the saddle style.
Matteo. said:Holy god, again. It is not possible.
The only positive aspect is that the most damage is on the shoulder and not on the knee. there is time to recover up to the Pyrenees
Contador probably needs his shoulders as much as his knees with his distinct out of the saddle style.
You guys panic too much, it's just wounds. He's gonna be fine, i expect him to be good tomorrow. And wednesday: ATTACK
LaFlorecita said:He smashed into a traffic island after he had already crashed.sir fly said:Contador, himself, said it was a traffic island he caught.LaFlorecita said:Pfff.... IdiotsTommyGun said:
Just saw a video from another angle, Alberto is the one to go down first but it's hard to tell if it's because Bookwalter touches his back wheel or if Alberto just loses grip on the road
Seemed like a really hard hit, amazing that he apparently did not suffer any fractures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLwZoTGhDyk&feature=youtu.be
That was a pretty rough fall. If he really didn't sustain any fractures, then he's really lucky, because he hit kinda hard that island with his right side.
Let's just hope that he can recover fast, but in the next few days his resting will be shitty.
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Well she knows, but it's a really a dense (sorry) comment you made so maybe she was hoping you made a typo or just meant something else.
King Boonen said:
Well she knows, but it's a really a dense (sorry) comment you made so maybe she was hoping you made a typo or just meant something else.
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Well, to be quite honest, his back wheel looks to clipped by bookwalter, not bad positioning, just unfortunate luck
King Boonen said:
Well, to be quite honest, his back wheel looks to clipped by bookwalter, not bad positioning, just unfortunate luck
I disagree with you King Boonen: he was in the flow of riders, it's racing, it could have happened to anyone. No one to blame but Lady Luck...
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He was trapped in and that caused him to crash. I'm not saying he is stupid or he chose to crash. I am saying he should never have been in the situation in the first place. And yes, I'm fully aware of how to ride a bike race, the fact it is the first stage was pointed out in my post.
I don't know whose fault it was, either his or his teams, but he is a GC favourite riding the first stage of the tour. Everyone knows it's nervous and he should have been either front and centre or at least in the middle of the road and either he or his team didn't do that. Some crashes are just bad luck, but the chance of crashing is much higher if you end up in the gutter or next to road furniture. Someone, either him, his team mates or his team car should have been making sure he kept himself away from the edge of the road.
LaFlorecita said:
He was trapped in and that caused him to crash. I'm not saying he is stupid or he chose to crash. I am saying he should never have been in the situation in the first place. And yes, I'm fully aware of how to ride a bike race, the fact it is the first stage was pointed out in my post.
I don't know whose fault it was, either his or his teams, but he is a GC favourite riding the first stage of the tour. Everyone knows it's nervous and he should have been either front and centre or at least in the middle of the road and either he or his team didn't do that. Some crashes are just bad luck, but the chance of crashing is much higher if you end up in the gutter or next to road furniture. Someone, either him, his team mates or his team car should have been making sure he kept himself away from the edge of the road.
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Bad luck, yes. Bad luck made more likely by being in a dangerous road position, also yes.casati said:
Looks like it was all his own fault looking at the replay.Tonton said:
https://twitter.com/cyclingnieuws1/status/749285418013691904?s=09
Tonton said:
It is the influence we have over Lady Luck that was the problem here. I'm hoping he feels ok tomorrow, we shall have to see.
Inquitus said:
He is very lucky to survive this crash without serious consequences. All his fault.
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No. Last year he won a Giro with a destroyed shoulder...instead in 2011, he has not recovered for several stages since the crash that dameged his kneeRattaKuningas said:Matteo. said:Holy god, again. It is not possible.
The only positive aspect is that the most damage is on the shoulder and not on the knee. there is time to recover up to the Pyrenees
Contador probably needs his shoulders as much as his knees with his distinct out of the saddle style.
He has to survive tomorrow without any time loss. He should be fine by Wednesday. I've just read that they are using some special high-tech skin repair method (cell replacement), which is nice to hear
In an article on Velonews he is quoted as saying the following:
“There was a lot of tension because we were fighting for positions at the front to avoid the wind,” said Contador. “We were paying attention but I saw a central reservation too late and the front wheel went to the side. It’s bad luck, I’m screwed.”
He has been very crash prone at the Tour for whatever reason. Crashed in all the Tours he's competed at since since 2011. Some of his crashes more serious than others obviously. This one could have been very serious.
Watching the replay of his crash today, it looks like what he himself said - that he saw the central reservation too late, and in his late reaction, crashed the bike. I wish he could just stay on his bloody bike!
“There was a lot of tension because we were fighting for positions at the front to avoid the wind,” said Contador. “We were paying attention but I saw a central reservation too late and the front wheel went to the side. It’s bad luck, I’m screwed.”
He has been very crash prone at the Tour for whatever reason. Crashed in all the Tours he's competed at since since 2011. Some of his crashes more serious than others obviously. This one could have been very serious.
Watching the replay of his crash today, it looks like what he himself said - that he saw the central reservation too late, and in his late reaction, crashed the bike. I wish he could just stay on his bloody bike!
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Of course, I doubt many riders knew there was a traffic island after that curve at all.
Not sure what he did wrong in terms of positioning. It was just shitty luck.
But he really wasn't that close to the traffic island. If his wheel hadn't slipped on those road markings he wouldn't have crashed.King Boonen said:
Of course, I doubt many riders knew there was a traffic island after that curve at all.
Not sure what he did wrong in terms of positioning. It was just shitty luck.
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