Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Gigs_98]

Ow well, after back to back loosing time, now he can't even stay upright on his bike. I'm beginning to think that he should have retired. He crashed on every GT he enters, what's up with that? Bad luck or bad bike handling? Looks like Froome and Quintana will be cruising and win Vuelta. I'm just waiting for announcement that Contador pulling out.

There's a big elephant in the room and everyone refuses to acknowledge it because it negates the low-weight cult.

STOP IT!
There isn't one person on this forum who agrees with you and it won't change no matter how often you write the same post. The only thing you do is to annoy people who actually want to write about Contador, his bike handling and you know, just everything which has something to do with Contador and not upper body strength.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Retirement incoming

You reckon Trek will release him from his contract?

 

[Kwibus]

Ow well, after back to back loosing time, now he can't even stay upright on his bike. I'm beginning to think that he should have retired. He crashed on every GT he enters, what's up with that? Bad luck or bad bike handling? Looks like Froome and Quintana will be cruising and win Vuelta. I'm just waiting for announcement that Contador pulling out.

There's a big elephant in the room and everyone refuses to acknowledge it because it negates the low-weight cult.

dude. Lol.

 

[arvc40]

Just can't ignore his *** ups anymore. I'm wasting my time sat here waiting for him to perform

 

[LaFlorecita]

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He was well positioned by his team mates, he **** up dropping back before bend. Idiot, it's his own fault. Very disappointed. I could see it was a mistake dropping back. Just terrible move.

He didn't drop back on purpose so he didn't "*** up", he isn't an "idiot" and it wasn't a "mistake" or a "terrible move"

 

[Gigs_98]

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Retirement incoming

You reckon Trek will release him from his contract?

The question is if Trek will still wants a contract with him
Maybe he can still be a domestique for TGBM and Degenkolb next year

 

[Kwibus]

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When did he turn into such a defeatist quitter? Don't moan and complain about injuries immediately after a stage; play them down and see how you feel in the morning. No good can come from saying he is hurting now, except to satisfy his ego if he fails.

Well I can imagine he becomes one after so much crap.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I know Contador was taken down by another rider, but why didn't he just sit on Benatti's wheel. He was in 3rd position and then thinks his day is over and slows down so his is slower than the rest of the bunch and another rider rides into his back wheel (I think it was his back wheel, I only saw one replay). In the moment I saw Contador loosing his position I already thought "this might become dangerous" and ofc it did.

We've seen it many times, he cannot keep his position in the peloton. He can't stay on his teammates' wheels. He doesn't do it on purpose.

 

[Miburo]

Relax Fleur, it's his own fault. It's unlucky of course, but he put himself in that position.

Admitting a mistake is part of life, just like being able to live with it. No need to stress out

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Ow well, after back to back loosing time, now he can't even stay upright on his bike. I'm beginning to think that he should have retired. He crashed on every GT he enters, what's up with that? Bad luck or bad bike handling? Looks like Froome and Quintana will be cruising and win Vuelta. I'm just waiting for announcement that Contador pulling out.

There's a big elephant in the room and everyone refuses to acknowledge it because it negates the low-weight cult.

STOP IT!
There isn't one person on this forum who agrees with you and it won't change no matter how often you write the same post. The only thing you do is to annoy people who actually want to write about Contador, his bike handling and you know, just everything which has something to do with Contador and not upper body strength.

Some people regularly bring up the need to reduce team sizes, and they are probably right.
Some people regularly bring up the possibility of introducing salary caps, and they are probably right.
Some people regularly bring up necessary changes in UCI governance, and they are probably right.
I regularly bring up the importance of developing upper-body muscles in cyclists, and I am probably right.

Do I have less of a right to state my opinion than these other people do?

 

[Valv.Piti]

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He was well positioned by his team mates, he **** up dropping back before bend. Idiot, it's his own fault. Very disappointed. I could see it was a mistake dropping back. Just terrible move.

He didn't drop back on purpose so he didn't "**** up", he isn't an "idiot" and it wasn't a "mistake" or a "terrible move"

It was somewhat of a mess up. Whats the point of being in front of the peloton when you are gonna drop down at the most dangerous time?

 

[gatete]

Another crash, another heartbreak, fvvvvccccckkkkkk

 

[Valv.Piti]

I know Contador was taken down by another rider, but why didn't he just sit on Benatti's wheel. He was in 3rd position and then thinks his day is over and slows down so his is slower than the rest of the bunch and another rider rides into his back wheel (I think it was his back wheel, I only saw one replay). In the moment I saw Contador loosing his position I already thought "this might become dangerous" and ofc it did.

We've seen it many times, he cannot keep his position in the peloton. He can't stay on his teammates' wheels. He doesn't do it on purpose.

Is it simply of question of strength?

 

[Gigs_98]

Ow well, after back to back loosing time, now he can't even stay upright on his bike. I'm beginning to think that he should have retired. He crashed on every GT he enters, what's up with that? Bad luck or bad bike handling? Looks like Froome and Quintana will be cruising and win Vuelta. I'm just waiting for announcement that Contador pulling out.

There's a big elephant in the room and everyone refuses to acknowledge it because it negates the low-weight cult.

STOP IT!
There isn't one person on this forum who agrees with you and it won't change no matter how often you write the same post. The only thing you do is to annoy people who actually want to write about Contador, his bike handling and you know, just everything which has something to do with Contador and not upper body strength.

Some people regularly bring up the need to reduce team sizes, and they are probably right.
Some people regularly bring up the possibility of introducing salary caps, and they are probably right.
Some people regularly bring up necessary changes in UCI governance, and they are probably right.
I regularly bring up the importance of developing upper-body muscles in cyclists, and I am probably right.

Do I have less of a right to state my opinion than these other people do?

No but you already know that we don't agree with you while the other topics are something most people here like to discuss about. And just saying, when the whole forum disagrees with you I don't think it makes much sense to write "I am probably right"

 

[LaFlorecita]

I know Contador was taken down by another rider, but why didn't he just sit on Benatti's wheel. He was in 3rd position and then thinks his day is over and slows down so his is slower than the rest of the bunch and another rider rides into his back wheel (I think it was his back wheel, I only saw one replay). In the moment I saw Contador loosing his position I already thought "this might become dangerous" and ofc it did.

We've seen it many times, he cannot keep his position in the peloton. He can't stay on his teammates' wheels. He doesn't do it on purpose.

Is it simply of question of strength?

I don't know what it is, but it's been that way for many many years. A teammate (don't remember who) once said he gives up his place too easily, he should defend his position.

 

[Jelantik]

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When did he turn into such a defeatist quitter? Don't moan and complain about injuries immediately after a stage; play them down and see how you feel in the morning. No good can come from saying he is hurting now, except to satisfy his ego if he fails.

Well judging from his pre Vuelta start interview, he sounded like his heart wasn't even there. He didn't sound like he prepared well and the first 7 stages has been really hard and very hot, plus he is down 1:20 already. Adding to the fact now he crashed. Not surprise if he pulls out citing injury or fever due to injury. Again an exciting grand tour race is moving on without him actively participating. He is beginning to end up like a footnote on every GT... Quite annoying to see him can't stay upright... for once.

 

[portugal11]

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He was well positioned by his team mates, he **** up dropping back before bend. Idiot, it's his own fault. Very disappointed. I could see it was a mistake dropping back. Just terrible move.

He didn't drop back on purpose so he didn't "**** up", he isn't an "idiot" and it wasn't a "mistake" or a "terrible move"

It was somewhat of a mess up. Whats the point of being in front of the peloton when you are gonna drop down at the most dangerous time?

You are a funny guy, when quintana was glued to froome's wheel in the flat stages of le tour, you were very satisfied with his behaviour

 

[LaFlorecita]

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When did he turn into such a defeatist quitter? Don't moan and complain about injuries immediately after a stage; play them down and see how you feel in the morning. No good can come from saying he is hurting now, except to satisfy his ego if he fails.

Wtf is he supposed to say, oh I'm fine, it's just a scratch, and then he loses 2 minutes tomorrow? This is absolutely normal. In fact, we know he often makes his injuries sound worse than they are.

 

[arvc40]

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He was well positioned by his team mates, he **** up dropping back before bend. Idiot, it's his own fault. Very disappointed. I could see it was a mistake dropping back. Just terrible move.

He didn't drop back on purpose so he didn't "**** up", he isn't an "idiot" and it wasn't a "mistake" or a "terrible move"

He eased off the gas and left his team mates wheels, very foolish, he will now pay the price.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Just can't ignore his **** ups anymore. I'm wasting my time sat here waiting for him to perform

Well then leave. No one forces you to support him.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Oh well That said, it looked like only bruises (but who knows yet?) so it won't have much of an impact I think.

 

[Gigs_98]

I know Contador was taken down by another rider, but why didn't he just sit on Benatti's wheel. He was in 3rd position and then thinks his day is over and slows down so his is slower than the rest of the bunch and another rider rides into his back wheel (I think it was his back wheel, I only saw one replay). In the moment I saw Contador loosing his position I already thought "this might become dangerous" and ofc it did.

We've seen it many times, he cannot keep his position in the peloton. He can't stay on his teammates' wheels. He doesn't do it on purpose.

Is it simply of question of strength?

I don't know what it is, but it's been that way for many many years. A teammate (don't remember who) once said he gives up his place too easily, he should defend his position.

Then why does he try to be at the front of the peloton anyway. Especially after the 3 km mark he should just go back and ride in a part of the peloton where crashes are less likely. Ofc he might loose a few seconds here and there but I'd rather lose 10 seconds than crash especially because it's looking as if both options are equally likely.

 

[Miburo]

He's not gonna surrender in this vuelta, even if the GC is over unless he broke something.

Contador is not that kinda man, luckily he doesn't resemble most of his fans

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Oh well That said, it looked like only bruises (but who knows yet?) so it won't have much of an impact I think.

Bruises will make him stiff and sore, he won't be able to sleep because of the road rash, so yeah, he'll lose several minutes on the next few stages.

 

[Red Rick]

I like how when you're in 4th place turning into the final corner your chance of another riding risking too much and making you crash is smaller than that happening in 10th place. Because logic.