Alberto Contador suspended until August 2012 (loses all results July 2010 - Jan 2012)

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biopass

Nov 9, 2010
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So any idea if Contador gonna put action behind his own words and retire as cyclist?

Or was that just another lie?
 
DirtyWorks

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gooner said:
You have taking me up wrong there. Another user on the forum was asking why other people in sports have not be convicted of a doping offence when they tested positive for clenbuterol and i was explaining to that user that it was rife in China and Mexico and not in the EU and that WADA recognizes this. I only flagged up those 2 examples to show him it is widespread in China and Mexico. I know along it is regulated and controlled very well in the EU. Thats was the point i was trying to get over to that user.
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Okay. Sorry about that. I've seen that stupid meat explanation take on a life of its own for too long.
 
Benotti69

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Thomsena said:
I bet you were thrilled to see Lance return then?
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Ah Stray is an old apologist in the clinic for Armstrong. ;) He is now taking great joy in seeing Contador banned purely as an Armstrong fan.
 
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Absoltutely damned disgraceful. Even the CAS said that the substance 'may' have come from contaminated food. The way they treat cyclists is just incredible. I really believed that Contador - a good and honest man - would not be sanctioned. I absolutely feel for him. If you are reading this Alberto: Solidarity with you stretches all the way here to Thailand.
 
goggalor

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I don't like these back-dated suspensions. It's not a two year ban if he's only gone for 6 months.
 
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It is what it is. I'm most disappointed that there are a year and a half's worth of results that are in a sort of limbo; an inherited win is hard to legitimize, even as the result of a doping case. He will be back in August, which is not that much time, realistically (we got to see him race for 18 months, unlike other cases).

I don't want to sound polarized, but it doesn't do any good to make a spectacle out of the double standard between the Lance and Contador case. Criminal cases are serious business, in a way that I cannot elevate cycling's cases to.

Most unfortunate is that the combination of these stories over the week does not do justice to the full story, and will cement any distorted impressions of cycling for a big chunk of the casual public.
 
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pmcg76

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straydog said:
I don't need to act anything...you are doing plenty good yourself on that front.

Rhub...good to see you again.

Your double standards...your argument I mean not your morals;)

I don't think Armstrong should have been criminally prosecuted no. And likewise I don't think his results from previous tours will or should be investigated. That may be my hypocrisy and I hold my hands up if so. But As I see it whether someone is a nice guy or not is utterly irrelevant to the morals of doping and cheating.

For me 2007 was the beginning of a new dawn, the possibility that cycling was finally going to try and seriously produce clean results. As such I have embraced and loved watching riders who I believe in, Wiggins, Voeckler, Moncoutie, and plenty others coming to the fore. I don't hate Contador because he's a doper....I hate him because he is such an extroardinarily talented rider who could make such a difference to the future of this sport if he were open and clean!
I'd hope any intelligence he has, and admittedly it isn't a lot, would direct him to the fall out and legacy attached by some to LA, and think to himself that maybe how he wins, rather than how many he wins is the important thing.

Peace....and really good to see you about again Rhub:)
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So you actually admit to being hypocritical and yet you are slamming other people for being hypocritical.

I dont think it was wrong that Contador was punished and am not happy that this case took so long as it let Contador ride and win which is all now scrubbed. Whatever people believe of Contador doping, what he was punished for and what was stated in the report leaves a very bad aftertaste. People are behaving like he was busted for EPO or blood doping which of course is also very likely. Thats not the case so calling for a 4 year ban is ridiculous.

You are so full of it, who really believed 2007 was going to see a new era of clean cycling. The only time in cycling history that I seen a genuine belief that cycling was really going to clean up was in 1999 and reading back through the stories, it did clean up a bit for a very short period. Of course who arrived on the scene in 1999.

The French and people like Walsh and Kimmage knew the score from the start but were silenced by Lance's beloved 'I had cancer so no way would I dope' card. I never seen Contador pulling the same trick with his illness.
 
Publicus

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I've read the bulk of the CAS report and let me say I would be FURIOUS if I was Contador's team. I'll follow up later, but I need to get to the office.

EDIT: Python, I hope you start a separate thread to discuss the full report. It will get lost in this nonsense otherwise.
 
straydog

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Thomsena said:
Andy was equally as good as Berto in mountains in 2010...
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and frankly....probably as equally juiced.

PCMG...

I couldn't care less whether an athlete is a narcissist....honestly if your objection to one doper over another is their ego or their connections...then as you say, you are beyond my help.

Also do you honestly think Contador isn't a narcissist? Do you honestly think he isn't ruthless? When does someone cross the line in your mind? See, I'd say the very act of knowingly cheating and lying about it, which as I said could have resulted in ruination and prison for some poor unsuspecting spanish farmer, is pretty bad, but maybe that's just me.

Apparently, Dennis Nielsen was really nice to puppies...which obviously makes him not that bad...Hitler too...he liked pets....Bush he had the cute little fella nipping at his heals....oh wait that was Cheney...anyway you probably get my point....surely that "crime" is what dictates someone's criminality not their "niceness" or otherwise.
 
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This is a Sad Day for cycling a sport I love....I thought I'd be gutted and finally after 45+ years give up on the sport. Instead I watched the TTT at Qatar on streaming video...the world goes on, cycling goes on.

It's a shame that Alberto was sanctioned, he is the is the best of his generation. But he is one tough hombre, hopefully he'll be back because he is the most exciting rider I've seen since Pantani. Not being able to see him ride this year will make the races less interesting but I'll still watch Every Single cycling event I can. So the sport hasn't lost it's pull for me. And I'll watch the 2011 Giro again, especially Etna and thrill to the exploits of one of the most gifted, stylistic riders I've ever seen!
 
python

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Publicus said:
EDIT: Python, I hope you start a separate thread to discuss the full report. It will get lost in this nonsense otherwise.
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feel free to start it as i have requested the mods to allow it. i have started multiple threads attempting to discuss technical issues that either went nowhere or were sunk. if such threads appears, i will add as I too almost finished reading the rulling and feel similar (but for different reasons) to your position.
 
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webbie146

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lol At all the people saying Andy Schleck would never win the tdf :D

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