Alberto Contador suspended until August 2012 (loses all results July 2010 - Jan 2012)

[maltiv]

your loyalty to the guy is admirable.
he fooled you as much as anybody else.

Why would she change her loyalty? Everyone who knows just a little bit about science knows that this test proves nothing. Contador is saved by the fact that he was tested the day before the positive, on which date the amount of clenbuterol was zero. That means that the low amount cannot be justified by the substance's half-life. Moreover, there's just no possible way in which he can knowingly have consumed that low amount of clenbuterol, unless he willingly took 1/5000 of a normal clenbuterol doze (you can just imagine how small that "pill" would be - it wouldn't be visible to the naked eye, at least).

There are only 2 options: either the clenbuterol got there by blood doping (which is not proved) or it got there by food contamination (not proved either). As I see it, he's not guilty unless they can actually prove that he blood doped. As it stands now he's suspended on a formality, namely the rule that says that a rider is responsible for having a banned substance in their body and have to prove themselves that it was due to contamination - which is impossible in Contador's case.

 

[pmcg76]

No one is giving him a pass...you know...other than his fans...

Thanks for the psychology class...I feel enlightened.

Dude read your own posts...slowly....of course our feelings to all people are based on our over all perception of their reasons for behaving the way that they do. Context is everything. In this context I would say, Contador is a cheat and a liar and I don't like him because of it...and that means my moral compass is out of skew?

My compass is out of skew because I don't admire him and do admire Armstrong and obviously yours is in skew because you feel the opposite.

That my peculiar little friend has nothing to do with a moral compass...it has to do with opinion...of which you are perfectly entitled to...even if it is palpably wrong

I dont hold Contador up as someone to admire. I simply dont have heroes in a personal sense. As a cyclist I found Contador to be entertaining. As a human being I would count my feeling towards him as zero.

As a cyclist I could admire Armstrong but as he intertwined his cycling career with cancer so much. I find the idea of anyone who knows the full story willingly admiring him as a person very shallow.

 

[Winternet_]

The term "doping" has grown to include "dopERs".

Doping: the act of using substances or procedures to improve athletic performance.

That was not the case here.

 

[Fidolix]

Andy was equally as good as Berto in mountains in 2010...

And if you are believing anyone else in a top 10 grand tour is cleaner than Contador or for that matter the Schlecks, then you really are naive, even to believe that a clean Andy Schleck could follow a doped Contador only shows your lack of reality I´m sorry to say.

My point is, if Contador was doped as you obvious are so convienced about he was, and same time believe Andy was clean then you really are in for some nasty surprises.

 

[pastronef]

It kills cycling because it becomes a stupid, boring sport without Alberto. Alberto is cycling. At least for a lot of people.

Alberto Contador, winner of 6 GTs,
Tour 2007, 2009, 2010
Giro 2008, 2011
Vuelta 2008

i always thought you joked a little bit with your total support for Alberto, to mock some other fan boys or haters.
but what you say and your signature makes me

 

[The Hitch]

"Muchos ánimos Contador, yo también estoy contigo!!!!!"
@andresiniesta8

A Barcelona player supporting a Madrileño.

Iniesta was running alongside Contador up the Tourmalet for about 500m in the last km if you remember. Well I saw a dwarf with an Inniesta barca shirt so figured it was him

Barca have a lot to fear from anti doping which is why he makes a statement like this, though I guess it makes me like him a bit now.

 

[LaFlorecita]

no maybe about it....but at least you can see it.

Do you know how I feel? No.

 

[VeloCity]

No one is giving him a pass...you know...other than his fans...

How is that any different than what you're trying to do for Armstrong?

 

[LaFlorecita]

link? .............

Link to the text message? It's on my phone...

 

[Parrulo]

Iniesta was running alongside Contador up the Tourmalet for about 500m in the last km if you remember. Well I saw a dwarf with an Inniesta barca shirt so figured it was him

Barca have a lot to fear from anti doping which is why he makes a statement like this, though I guess it makes me like him a bit now.

iniesta is one of the very few barca players i like, he is a really humble down to earth guy( much like contador) for example when spain won the world cup the team went to a club in madrid to celebrate and he spent every single minute of that night giving autographs and taking pictures with fans instead of just partying hard like the rest of the team did, ofc they also gave autographs and stuff but after a while they asked the fans for some time for themselves but not iniesta.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Lol. That's probably one of the stupidest things I've ever read. How old are you? 14?

I do honestly care about your opinion. Thanks for sharing.

 

[LaFlorecita]

i always thought you joked a little bit with your total support for Alberto, to mock some other fan boys or haters.
but what you say and your signature makes me

Oh but I never joke about that sort of thing. He is and will always be the winner of those GTs.

 

[pastronef]

My mom has decided she isn't going to watch the Tour... Just as my best friend. (He's gay and I've practically pulled him into Alberto fangirling. He thinks he has a nice ass.)

a psychologist could help (no gay friend related)

 

[The Hitch]

eddy merckx says someone is trying to kill cycling. Well the german media are.

+ 1000000000000000000000001

 

[pastronef]

Oh but I never joke about that sort of thing. He is and will always be the winner of those GTs.

ok ok, the fact that cycling has no meaning without alberto is a more troubling opinion

 

[Benotti69]

The only people killing cycling are those involved in doping in cycling.

The answer has been staring them in their faces since Festina and they failed to take a stance and make it the cleanest sport int he world.

No the idiots thought they could sweep it under the carpet.

You want someone to blame.

Blame;
All those who dope
All those who hire dopers
Ex doping cyclists who refuse to sepak the truth about their time as doping riders. eg Eddy Merckx etc
All the Doctors who administer dope
All those fans who ignore the doing
The ASO
The RSC
The media who refuse to write the truth
Teams who proclaim they are clean and the sport is cleaner.

Don't Blame;
Riders who refuse to dope.
The fans who call a spade a spade
Journalists who write the truth
Testers
Testing laboratories and the new tests they continue to develop.

 

[straydog]

How is that any different than what you're trying to do for Armstrong?

Here is neither the place or the time....there is a difference, and admittedly it isn't straightforward, and my opinion contains concepts that some here find difficult to follow, and my arguments even occasionally contain the odd big word, but if you are interested get yourself over to any thread I have contributed to that is relevant to LA.

So back to Contador....

 

[Walkman]

Oh but I never joke about that sort of thing. He is and will always be the winner of those GTs.

Just a question. If AC is the winner of the 2010 Tour and the 2011 Giro, isn't Rasmussen the winner of the 2007 Tour then?

 

[LaFlorecita]

ok ok, the fact that cycling has no meaning without alberto is a more troubling opinion

It would have meaning, but it would be nowhere as exciting as with Alberto.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Just a question. If AC is the winner of the 2010 Tour and the 2011 Giro, isn't Rasmussen the winner of the 2007 Tour then?

No, he was pulled out before the end.

 

[The Hitch]

The last tour was as credible and enjoyable as very few others, thanks to the fact that AC was compelled to take the juice down a notch.

lol wot

Cadel Ferrari Evens beat Andy Fuentes Schleck and brother Frank. Full credibility no doubt.

As for AC, everyone who watches cycling knows exactly why he underperformed there. Me and Timmy were saying he had no chance at the Tour after that GIro from the moment he announced he was going to do it.

 

[spalco]

So in fact Contador gets a 4 month ban. What the **** are the Contador fans here being so butthurt for?

 

[The Hitch]

Sorry, but that's just stupid.

Whats stupid about it

 

[Winternet_]

Just a question. If AC is the winner of the 2010 Tour and the 2011 Giro, isn't Rasmussen the winner of the 2007 Tour then?

You do know that he didn't even finished the 2007 Tour, right?

 

[Havetts]

Just a question. If AC is the winner of the 2010 Tour and the 2011 Giro, isn't Rasmussen the winner of the 2007 Tour then?

Exactly. Double standards, double standards everywhere.