Alberto Contador suspended until August 2012 (loses all results July 2010 - Jan 2012)

[LaFlorecita]

I posted a link to it a couple of pages back.

Phil Anderson said other riders who raced against Contador and who finished behind him on the podium would feel cheated.

Oops... Things get lost easily in this thread...

 

[Jeanne]

Why are you constantly checking the German media? Because that makes you feel good because they agree with you? Jesus Christ, for fvck's sake. Those Germans are only constantly accusing riders of doping, they don't care for anything other than doping in this sport. Generally, Germans are nice people, but this makes me hate the country like I've never done before.

Well, as a German I tend to read GERMAN journals and also English. Basically, they don't accuse anyone, at least what I read, they just report, many with a negative bias, that is true.
But however, whatever you PERSONALLY think about Contadors case, doesn't mean that those media you are cursing here, are all so bad and wrong. What do you want, media that just tell what you would like to read there? No wonder you like reading and quoting the stuff from Spain. Another bias there

And no, please don't bother replying to me, that discussion would lead to nowhere. Have a nice day.

 

[User Guide]

Really Sad

24 hours after the news and having time too think about it, Im deeply saddened for Alberto Contador.No not because I believe him to be some unwitting victim of cirumstance.On the contrary his links too operation Puerto,that EVERY single one of the dirtiest superhuman performances in cyclings history hes been able too eclipse;mean in my own mind I am 99.99999% certain he is a doper.I am also 99.999% certain looking at the times/numbers from last years tour/Vuelta that a clean in shape motivated Contador could of still won GT's.And thats why im sad for him,sad hes dennied himself the opportunity to win without guilt,without having too justify too himself every day when he looks in the mirror.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Well, as a German I tend to read GERMAN journals and also English. Basically, they don't accuse anyone, at least what I read, they just report, many with a negative bias, that is true.
But however, whatever you PERSONALLY think about Contadors case, doesn't mean that those media you are cursing here, are all so bad and wrong. What do you want, media that just tell what you would like to read there? No wonder you like reading and quoting the stuff from Spain. Another bias there

And no, please don't bother replying to me, that discussion would lead to nowhere. Have a nice day.

Okay I won't start an argument. Although I do have a lot to say about this but I'll hold back I guess.

One thing that I do want to clarify is that I didn't necessarily mean the German media is accusing cyclists, but more the German "experts".

 

[Jeanne]

Okay I won't start an argument. Although I do have a lot to say about this but I'll hold back I guess.

One thing that I do want to clarify is that I didn't necessarily mean the German media is accusing cyclists, but more the German "experts".

Well, then, it would be ok to write just what you really mean instead of generally accusing the media of a country

And yes, I agree with what you say about the experts. But that is part of their job. Every cycling fan in Germany or whatever country can read what they say or let it be, and decide if she or he thinks the same or not. It's not up to you to decide what can be said or thought here. If you don't agree with sth, fine, discuss, or just ignore - but there's no witchhunt needed.

 

[El Pistolero]

http://www.sporza.be/cm/sporza/wielrennen/120206_Contador_Vandeweghe

The president of the Flemish cycling federation:

Reporter: What do you think about Contador's verdict?
Vandeweghe: Nonsense.

He also said that WADA is afraid that Contador will appeal to higher courts because they would make firewood of this verdict. That's the reason why they only fined him for 2.4 million Euros instead of 12 million Euros like the rules say. And why they only really banned him for 6 months.

I hope he does appeal.

 

[Cloxxki]

Evans: Ban for Contador victory in fight against doping.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he actually thinks Alberto is a doper. And to think I actually started to like him...

Vamos Samu! Forza Vincenzo! Win the Tour!

They may even share a blood courier and thus have intimate details about each other. How would we know, until one tells all.

Whatever riders say abour doping is irrelevant. At best something to label a lie when the truth comes out. Especially for the ones that win stuff.

 

[FGimondi]

I think people are putting to much weight on the contaminated food suplement theory. It's quite obviously an obiter dictum from the CAS, although beeing an opinion of the court it played no role in the CAS final jugdment in the case. A obiter dictum statment carries less legal weight than the rest of the jugdment and it's clearly a comment made in passing by the court. If there was evidence to back it up they should have let Contador go without a suspension.

I get that people are interested in this new theory, but as il dottore stated earlier the CAS quite clearly stated that the food suplement contamination was "more likely". Not that it was what happened and not that it was backed by any sort of proof.

 

[Benotti69]

Pretty sad that people think that Contador is not a doper.

He rode for Sainz

He rode for Bruyneel

He rode for Martinelli

He rode for Riis.

Now how did he manage to win races and GTs with these DSs and not dope?

 

[LaFlorecita]

http://www.sporza.be/cm/sporza/wielrennen/120206_Contador_Vandeweghe

The president of the Flemish cycling federation:

Reporter: What do you think about Contador's verdict?
Vandeweghe: Nonsense.

He also said that WADA is afraid that Contador will appeal to higher courts because they would make firewood of this verdict. That's the reason why they only fined him for 2.4 million Euros instead of 12 million Euros like the rules say. And why they only really banned him for 6 months.

I hope he does appeal.

The rule is 12 million? Wtf? 70% of salary, right?

I hope he appeals. The whole verdict seems like BS. I know, rules are rules, but this should be an indication the rules are ****. "Oh, most likely is that he got it in his system accidentally but we still ban him like a doper because that's what the rules say." The verdict should've been based on whether or not he is guilty. Now they just pull out a whole different theory, one that neither of the parties considered, and they say "this is the most likely one." and voila, a ban for Mr Contador.

 

[sniper]

Boyer:

Cofidis manager Eric Boyer also welcomed the ban, and went even further. He called for Contador to admit his mistake in order to restore his credibility and truly support the fight against doing in the sport.

Jalabert:

Moreover, Jalabert deplored that the ban was retrospective. "During these two years, Contador raced. And he won, a lot. He beat riders who may have a clear conscience and who are harmed today by all of this, because they lost races. All those who finished second behind Contador will be feeling really frustrated - they might even feel they've been stolen their victories, as they really deserved to win."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/prudhomme-jalabert-and-boyer-on-contadors-doping-ban

 

[LaFlorecita]

Just as I thought, the Court of Human Rights.

Maybe I should ask for a job as clerk of court if they actually appeal...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Boyer:

Jalabert:


http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/prudhomme-jalabert-and-boyer-on-contadors-doping-ban

Jesus Christ those Frenchies are truly bitter.

 

[Benotti69]

Jesus Christ those Frenchies are truly bitter.

not as much as Contador fans who cant see the doper deep within Contador.

 

[El Pistolero]

not as much as Contador fans who cant see the doper deep within Contador.

He's not a doper, just look at the verdict!

 

[Benotti69]

He's not a doper, just look at the verdict!

Yeah then neither is Armstrong

 

[hrotha]

He's not a doper, just look at the verdict!

Screw the verdict, it wasn't needed!

That video never gets old

 

[El Pistolero]

Screw the verdict, it wasn't needed!

Me no speak Espagnol señor.

 

[sartoris]

not as much as Contador fans who cant see the doper deep within Contador.

You obviously haven't read the sentence, dude.

Plus, why take the Giro or all the other races he won from him if he rode clean? I understand many of you are happy cause now there's a chance for your favourite cyclists to win with CONTADOR out of the way.

He'll be back with a vengeance. Enjoy it while you can. Losers.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Screw the verdict, it wasn't needed!

That video never gets old

Oh I love Spaniards.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Me no speak Español señor.

Indeed.

 

[Benotti69]

You obviously haven't read the sentence, dude.

Plus, why take the Giro or all the other races he won from him if he rode clean? I understand many of you are happy cause now there's a chance for your favourite cyclists to win with CONTADOR out of the way.

He'll be back with a vengeance. Enjoy it while you can. Losers.

He didn't prove conclusively to CAS how the substance entered his body!

Therefore he got banned for doping.

He rode for doping DS his whole professional life. He hasn't won anything clean in the sport.

I dont have a favourite out of the current peleton. If I had to nominate 1 it might be Moncoutie.

Keep believing in pixies and fairies from Spain on S-Works, you never know you might find a white lunch bag under your pilllow one morning

 

[cineteq]

Screw the verdict, it wasn't needed!

That video never gets old

That's correct, the body language never lies.

Me no speak Espagnol señor.

In this case, you didn't have to.

 

[cineteq]

Indeed.

You both are Flemish right?

 

[webvan]

So if he appeals, what does that do to his suspension, hopefully he stays suspended until a new verdict is reached, that might take a long time and make him think twice about continuing with the waste of time and money.

It's bad enough that he was allowed to race last year...