Alcohol a forbidden sponsor ?

[Ryo Hazuki]

that's it's very hypoocrite to allow wine sponsors and not beer sponsors or vodka sponsors whatever. it's ridiuclous anyway. alcohol is really bad for your health as is coca cola (light/zero!) that can sponsor all they want.

 

[Christian]

that's it's very hypoocrite to allow wine sponsors and not beer sponsors or vodka sponsors whatever. it's ridiuclous anyway. alcohol is really bad for your health as is coca cola (light/zero!) that can sponsor all they want.

This reminded me of something!

This is a recent jersey of CT Differdange (now called Team Differdange-magic-sportfood.de), who participated recently in GP Samyn, Boucles du Sud Ardèche and Tour os South Africa. I am not 100% sure if it's the 2010 jersey or the 2009, but I'm pretty sure it's one of the two.

On the left sleeve you can see the sponsor "trojka.lu", which is a Vodka brand. They mostly make Vodka-mixes but also pure Vodka I think.

I don't think it's on their new jersey anymore, but I haven't seen it yet and they keep changing throughout the season with new sponsors

 

[Fus087]

Looking at my collection of ToSA pics, I can confirm it's still there:

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Coca-Cola sponsors this small race called the Tour de France.

And a team too:

 

[El Pistolero]

that's it's very hypoocrite to allow wine sponsors and not beer sponsors or vodka sponsors whatever. it's ridiuclous anyway. alcohol is really bad for your health as is coca cola (light/zero!) that can sponsor all they want.

Red wine can be very healthy though, if you drink 1-2 glasses a day.

Sadly, I'm more of a white wine drinker

But beer sponsors should be allowed as well, as drinking moderately isn't bad for your health at all. You're not going to kill brain cells if you drink one pint a day.

Perhaps Inbev should start a Belgian/American cycling team.

 

[federalski]

Up until a few months ago I had always thought Gerolsteiner was a beer company, I had never heard of it until the Cycling team was formed, and had just always assumed it was a beer... stupidly.

 

[Barrus]

One of the previous incarnations of Rabobank had Buckler (alcohol free lager) as a title sponsor, back when that team was manager by Jan Ras (ca 1990). Then I think it was taken over by Novell, then WordPerfect, before finally becoming Rabo IIRC.

This might also have to do with the fact that Buckler was run out of the beer market due to the Dutch people and Dutch comedians. And is likely the reason why it is hardly ever attempted to get a light beer in mass market.

 

[Kellys Big Sprocket]

Dang - you beat me to it!

I remember Sean Kellys KAS team - which was a soft drink maker - sharing sponsorship with Guinness when he raced in Ireland in the 80's!

Now your talkin. Been drinking the devils buttermilk ever since. The Guinness association was with the Nissan Classics and a handful of city centre circut races round Dublin and Cork from memory !!

Anyone remember the Coors Classic's from the 1980's. Remember Hinault winning one back in 1985 or 1986 !!!!

On the soft drink front anyone recall the Panasonic - Isotar Energy Drink partnership during Posts time and of course Fignon's time with Gatorade ??

 

[Libertine Seguros]

This might also have to do with the fact that Buckler was run out of the beer market due to the Dutch people and Dutch comedians. And is likely the reason why it is hardly ever attempted to get a light beer in mass market.

Erdinger Alkoholfrei is doing a pretty good job of self-market in the IBU World Cup though. Then again, that's with a built-in German market and the safety blanket of already having the alcohol-inclusive version.

Plus it makes for a handy way to get around any places having problems with alcohol advertising, since they're advertising the alcohol-free product but still promoting the company that makes the beer.

 

[Barrus]

Erdinger Alkoholfrei is doing a pretty good job of self-market in the IBU World Cup though. Then again, that's with a built-in German market and the safety blanket of already having the alcohol-inclusive version.

Plus it makes for a handy way to get around any places having problems with alcohol advertising, since they're advertising the alcohol-free product but still promoting the company that makes the beer.

Yeah, that's a good thing and a good marketing strategy. I only stated why Heineken stopped with Buckler in the Netherlands and that that could well be related to stopping the sponsoring of a team. In the netherlands, as far as I know only one brand of beer is involved in sponsoring anything of cycling and that is Amstel. Again, as Buckler, part of the Heineken company nowadays

 

[El Pistolero]

Yeah, that's a good thing and a good marketing strategy. I only stated why Heineken stopped with Buckler in the Netherlands and that that could well be related to stopping the sponsoring of a team. In the netherlands, as far as I know only one brand of beer is involved in sponsoring anything of cycling and that is Amstel. Again, as Buckler, part of the Heineken company nowadays

In Belgium it would easily be possible.

Our football league is called the Jupiler league for example. And foottie is still bigger than cycling in Belgium. How sad it may be.

 

[Barrus]

In Belgium it would easily be possible.

Our football league is called the Jupiler league for example. And foottie is still bigger than cycling in Belgium. How sad it may be.

I'm not saying it can't be done, up 'til recently, or perhaps still, I don't follow the footie, our national cup was sponsored by Amstel, our second division by Jupiler. It's just that the light beer thing did not really work here

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

And a team too:

the team of lizandro ajcu in guatemala

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Red wine can be very healthy though, if you drink 1-2 glasses a day.

Sadly, I'm more of a white wine drinker

But beer sponsors should be allowed as well, as drinking moderately isn't bad for your health at all. You're not going to kill brain cells if you drink one pint a day.

Perhaps Inbev should start a Belgian/American cycling team.

no it's not. wine drinkers say it is because it's better for bloodflow, well guess what's even better for bloodflow?? walking... and it doesn't induce your body with the poison called alcohol. wow way better thus.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

the team of lizandro ajcu in guatemala

Well, since the picture is of Lizandro winning a stage of the Vuelta a Guatemala, then yes

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

he is also their star rider

 

[Rip:30]

no it's not. wine drinkers say it is because it's better for bloodflow, well guess what's even better for bloodflow?? walking... and it doesn't induce your body with the poison called alcohol. wow way better thus.

Oh gezz more sanctimonious dietary recommendation BS.

"bloodflow"

 

[El Pistolero]

no it's not. wine drinkers say it is because it's better for bloodflow, well guess what's even better for bloodflow?? walking... and it doesn't induce your body with the poison called alcohol. wow way better thus.

You can walk and drink wine. It's already proven countless of times that drinking a glass of red wine is healthy. The grapes have some substance in it that's good for all kinds of things. But you get to little of that substance in your body by eating grapes, wine has a more compact amount of that substance hence it's way easier to drink red wine than to eat a **** load of grapes.

Alcohol isn't poison.

For a long time water was the real poison and beer and wine were the only option available for the masses to actually drink without dropping dead some day. I'm pretty sure drinking water has killed far more people than drinking alcohol

 

[Eric8-A]

And a team too:

The banners that say Gallo, that's actually the brand of a beer. I think in the Vuelta a Guatemala, their logo is on the leaders jersey.

 

[Eric8-A]

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

You can walk and drink wine. It's already proven countless of times that drinking a glass of red wine is healthy. The grapes have some substance in it that's good for all kinds of things. But you get to little of that substance in your body by eating grapes, wine has a more compact amount of that substance hence it's way easier to drink red wine than to eat a **** load of grapes.

Alcohol isn't poison.

For a long time water was the real poison and beer and wine were the only option available for the masses to actually drink without dropping dead some day. I'm pretty sure drinking water has killed far more people than drinking alcohol

if that would be true then you would just have to eat the grapes. it's been disproven a countless times as well that it's healthy. just an urban myth held high by the alcohol and wine industry. like how milk wa ssupposed to be healthy too and countless other bs.

 

[Rip:30]

if that would be true then you would just have to eat the grapes. it's been disproven a countless times as well that it's healthy. just an urban myth held high by the alcohol and wine industry. like how milk wa ssupposed to be healthy too and countless other bs.

wrong. read the literature. it's the ethanol that provides the cardiovascular benefits, not the grapes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17825708

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v56/n11/abs/1601459a.html

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

wrong. read the literature. it's the ethanol that provides the cardiovascular benefits, not the grapes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17825708

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v56/n11/abs/1601459a.html

I was responding pistolero who said the grapes had certain substances in them that were good for health.

but thanks for your links. though there are many other ways to improve cardiovasucal health without drinking and have all the bad side effects of them. btw I don't want to sound like small time drinking is bad I just heard it too much as an excuse from alcoholics

 

[jens_attacks]

alcohol is so old-school...

 

[El Pistolero]

I was responding pistolero who said the grapes had certain substances in them that were good for health.

but thanks for your links. though there are many other ways to improve cardiovasucal health without drinking and have all the bad side effects of them. btw I don't want to sound like small time drinking is bad I just heard it too much as an excuse from alcoholics

Alcoholics don't drink 1 glass a day, but whole bottles.

And I don't know what the substance is called anymore, but it is healthy. You could eat grapes, but you'd have to eat kilos of them.

Drinking one glass a day doesn't have any bad side effects.