Aleksandr Vlasov discussion thread

[Lequack]

He's had a pretty stealthy start of the season. He's always up there with the best, just not winning like he did last year.

 

[Lequack]

I guess it's this time of the year. Vlasov is flying, on some great form at the start of 2024!

 

[Netserk]

Rode like a damn fool. He was quick to take over from Hindley and force a selection, but then just lets McNulty go and looks around.

 

[scribers]

Butraigo couldn’t go either. So maybe it’s more mcnulty just was the better and nothing could stop him

 

[ingsve]

Rode like a damn fool. He was quick to take over from Hindley and force a selection, but then just lets McNulty go and looks around.

He didn't really take over from Hindley. Hindley just didn't last long and then fell like a stone through the field. Then he could come back later when he got out of his red zone.

 

[scribers]

Never underestimate the power of porn stache

 

[acm]

Butraigo couldn’t go either. So maybe it’s more mcnulty just was the better and nothing could stop him

Can't agree. Buitrago was on the radio when McNulty attacked, Vlasov was looking around and then they looked at each other and no one really wanted to chase. There is a video of a spectator on twitter and at one point McNulty even had around 20s advantage.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Great to see Vlasov not short of confidence, maybe ambtions for the le tour!

 

[Lequack]

Ah, drama already!

 

[acm]

Why all the drama? Everything he said is exactly as it should be.

 

[Faserr]

Can't see drama either.

 

[Rob5091]

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...t-pulling-for-roglic-from-the-first-kilometer
"The Russian rider admits that even though Primoz Roglic is now in the team and sharing goals, he does not yet think of himself in a domestique role."
No drama yet, but if Vlasov thinks Bora are going to let him be a joint leader at the Tour, he might be in for a nasty surprise.

 

[Berniece]

Why all the drama? Everything he said is exactly as it should be.

Can't see drama either.

Because Denk said Roglic was the sole captain?

 

[Faserr]

Vlasov said that he probably won't have to pull for Roglic from the beginning on and that he won't loose time on purpose.
He didn't say that he doesn't want to help Roglic. Tactically its better for Bora to have Hindley and/or Vlasov up there.
Roglic is the clear leader but Bora won't burn Vlasov or Hindley without reason at the beginning.
Of course journalists want drama in the articles. Thats why they write something like that which Vlasov didn't say:
"The Russian rider admits that even though Primoz Roglic is now in the team and sharing goals, he does not yet think of himself in a domestique role."

 

[acm]

Because Denk said Roglic was the sole captain?

No, because Vlasov himself said he will be Rogla's domestique.
Source: press conference

 

[acm]

Vlasov said that he probably won't have to pull for Roglic from the beginning on and that he won't loose time on purpose.
He didn't say that he doesn't want to help Roglic. Tactically its better for Bora to have Hindley and/or Vlasov up there.
Roglic is the clear leader but Bora won't burn Vlasov or Hindley without reason at the beginning.
Of course journalists want drama in the articles. Thats why they write something like that which Vlasov didn't say:
"The Russian rider admits that even though Primoz Roglic is now in the team and sharing goals, he does not yet think of himself in a domestique role."

On point!

 

[Berniece]

No, because Vlasov himself said he will be Rogla's domestique.
Source: press conference

Both of them then? But obvious drama because when he first joined, and it was the first press release of the year you say one thing, and now another. Thus drama.

 

[acm]

Both of them then? But obvious drama because when he first joined, and it was the first press release of the year you say one thing, and now another. Thus drama.

What other thing? Everything Vlasov said is basically the same that everyone was saying at that press conference. Of course he won't pull for Rogla from the start, there are others in the team for that. It's also logical for me that he and Hindley are going to be protected riders at the Tour, someone will have to cover UAE captains. It was also said two months ago that he'll be co captain at Paris Nice, so no, there is no drama. Only for those who don't like him.

 

[Berniece]

What other thing? Everything Vlasov said is basically the same that everyone was saying at that press conference. Of course he won't pull for Rogla from the start, there are others in the team for that. It's also logical for me that he and Hindley are going to be protected riders at the Tour, someone will have to cover UAE captains. It was also said two months ago that he'll be co captain at Paris Nice, so no, there is no drama. Only for those who don't like him.

It's true, I don't like him. But from the Roglic thread I understood that everyone would ride for Roglic.

 

[ingsve]

It's true, I don't like him. But from the Roglic thread I understood that everyone would ride for Roglic.

Well, it can easily turn out to be a Riis/Ullrich situation. Riis was the defending champion so he would be the leader in 97. But it turned out that he didn't have the legs anymore and Ullrich did.

Riders today are perhaps more soundly fit than in the 90s but Roglic is already a year older than what Riis was when he collapsed in the 1997 Tour so he still has to show that he has the legs before he is the undisputed leader.

 

[Berniece]

Well, it can easily turn out to be a Riis/Ullrich situation. Riis was the defending champion so he would be the leader in 97. But it turned out that he didn't have the legs anymore and Ullrich did.

Riders today are perhaps more soundly fit than in the 90s but Roglic is already a year older than what Riis was when he collapsed in the 1997 Tour so he still has to show that he has the legs before he is the undisputed leader.

I don't think that's going to happen though. Roglic will still be much better than Vlasov. Vlasov will barely finish top 10 in the TDF if everyone stays fit.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Well, it can easily turn out to be a Riis/Ullrich situation. Riis was the defending champion so he would be the leader in 97. But it turned out that he didn't have the legs anymore and Ullrich did.

Riders today are perhaps more soundly fit than in the 90s but Roglic is already a year older than what Riis was when he collapsed in the 1997 Tour so he still has to show that he has the legs before he is the undisputed leader.

Ullrich also had backing from behind the scenes which I doubt Vlasov has in the same way.

 

[ingsve]

Ullrich also had backing from behind the scenes which I doubt Vlasov has in the same way.

Doesn't have to be Vlasov either. It could be Hindley evolving a step further as well. Point is that Roglic is getting old and the bottom will fall out of his career bucket sooner or later.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Doesn't have to be Vlasov either. It could be Hindley evolving a step further as well. Point is that Roglic is getting old and the bottom will fall out of his career bucket sooner or later.

It will of course also depend on how the riders perform ahead of the Tour. Roglič is the big star though, so they won't just sacrifice him the first time he shows weakness, which could very well be the opposite for the other two.

 

[ingsve]

It will of course also depend on how the riders perform ahead of the Tour. Roglič is the big star though, so they won't just sacrifice him the first time he shows weakness, which could very well be the opposite for the other two.

True. As long as we don't get to see those old ONCE trains trying to drag Olano up mountains. That's when having just one leader becomes pathetic.