"Altitude Camps"...really?

[Nomad]

Excellent lecture on the medical aspects of altitude training by Olaf Schumacher:

View: https://youtu.be/ZV8bjxmjNvI?si=BwYlDBOIJ8K-Pwqw

Interesting study on miners that live & work at altitudes >3000m - some had Hcts in the 90s! Their blood must literally be sludge. Lol.

 

[Ripper]

Excellent lecture on the medical aspects of altitude training by Olaf Schumacher:

View: https://youtu.be/ZV8bjxmjNvI?si=BwYlDBOIJ8K-Pwqw

Interesting study on miners that live & work at altitudes >3000m - some had Hcts in the 90s! Their blood must literally be sludge. Lol.

Nasty! Mining is pretty harsh on one's health

 

[Aragon]

See the summary of studies posted above: anywhere from one to three weeks.

In addition to this, there is also a sizable group of scientists, who are of the opinion that there is no extra boost in total-Hb with hypoxia vs. normoxia in elite athletes.

Gore, Ashenden and Lundby have at least tilted towards this position. Interestingly also the first blood doping researchers Björn Ekblom and Per-Olof Åstrand were also at least skeptical about the benefits of high altitude training vs. roughly similar sea level training (neither one specialized in it).

As an interesting Yorck Olaf Schumacher -anecdote, his wife Pia Sundstedt was initially a road cyclist, but left the sport after she became disgusted by the doping culture. I don't know either one, but I have at least one mutual acquiantance with them.

Drömstallet som blev mardrömmen â Pia Sundstedt bytte gren efter dopningskraven och slog terrängcyklingsvärlden med häpnad: "Jag har blivit uppväxt med att idrotta rent"

Från landsvägseliten till Europamästare i terrängcykling.

svenska.yle.fi

 

[Sciatic]

In addition to this, there is also a sizable group of scientists, who are of the opinion that there is no extra boost in total-Hb with hypoxia vs. normoxia in elite athletes.

Gore, Ashenden and Lundby have at least tilted towards this position. Interestingly also the first blood doping researchers Björn Ekblom and Per-Olof Åstrand were also at least skeptical about the benefits of high altitude training vs. roughly similar sea level training (neither one specialized in it).

As an interesting Yorck Olaf Schumacher -anecdote, his wife Pia Sundstedt was initially a road cyclist, but left the sport after she became disgusted by the doping culture. I don't know either one, but I have at least one mutual acquiantance with them.

Drömstallet som blev mardrömmen â Pia Sundstedt bytte gren efter dopningskraven och slog terrängcyklingsvärlden med häpnad: "Jag har blivit uppväxt med att idrotta rent"

Från landsvägseliten till Europamästare i terrängcykling.

svenska.yle.fi

Great info, thanks!

 

[Tim Cahill]

I remember reading in Road to Wigan Pier how the miners would have to walk with their gear for several miles through a tunnel a little over a meter high in a forward hunched over position just to get to the coalface, then work a 12 hour shift with all the *** getting into their lungs, they would call it travelling. Doing that at 3000m altitude must be hell, I imagine they were in top condition though, get them a Colnago and send them to the WT, would be absolutely flying with that kind of HCT!!!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I remember reading in Road to Wigan Pier how the miners would have to walk with their gear for several miles through a tunnel a little over a meter high in a forward hunched over position just to get to the coalface, then work a 12 hour shift with all the *** getting into their lungs, they would call it travelling. Doing that at 3000m altitude must be hell, I imagine they were in top condition though, get them a Colnago and send them to the WT, would be absolutely flying with that kind of HCT!!!

It definitely puts Pogačar's CN nickname "the miner" in a new light.

 

[Sciatic]

It definitely puts Pogačar's CN nickname "the miner" in a new light.

🤣

 

[Rob5091]

Derek Gee's data from his pre-Dauphiné altitude camp -
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...-happens-at-high-altitude-pro-training-camps/