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Amstel Gold Race 2025, one day classic, April 20 (men's)

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Hate that people are playing down Skjelmose's win already by saying it was just thanks to Remco. He obviously isn't as good as the other two, but he rode hard and rode well and fully deserved his win. We can't complain about underdogs not winning and then also play down said underdogs' performances when they win.
Not playing down at all; I think without Skjel there to take a few pulls, Remco maybe couldn’t have bridged the 30s to Pog solo; Skjelmose had to hold Evenepoel’s wheel to win, and nobody else in the race could do that.
 
Ok, good race by Skjelmose and maybe Evenepoel could not have done it without him, or maybe it would have taken a bit longer. But let's be real here. Evenepoel started pulling on the climb when the group was 35s behind (after Van Wilder stopped pulling, he may have saved the day), Evenepoel took 10s back on the climb when Skjelmose attacked (gap was 25s) and Skjelmose only lost time to Pogacar until Evenepoel (who actually did come closer) bridged.

But for Skjelmose, he did great (i wouldn't have attacked then and there but it worked out for him) and cooperated as much as he could.
 
Skejlmose was incredible as well, but was losing time to Pog and had no chance what so ever at closing that gap. Pog and Remco made the race, Skejlmose was more of an underdog helping Remco out here and there and surprising the giants in the sprint

True enough.

But we're so used to the strongest rider winning the biggest races that I think it's really a breath of fresh air that he managed to pull this one off.
 
Not playing down at all; I think without Skjel there to take a few pulls, Remco maybe couldn’t have bridged the 30s to Pog solo; Skjelmose had to hold Evenepoel’s wheel to win, and nobody else in the race could do that.
I think you are 100% correct here. I think ultimately they both did what they could do and needed to do (Evenepoel and Skjelmose). No shame in how either raced
 
Ok, good race by Skjelmose and maybe Evenepoel could not have done it without him, or maybe it would have taken a bit longer. But let's be real here. Evenepoel started pulling on the climb when the group was 35s behind (after Van Wilder stopped pulling, he may have saved the day), Evenepoel took 10s back on the climb when Skjelmose attacked (gap was 25s) and Skjelmose only lost time to Pogacar until Evenepoel (who actually did come closer) bridged.

But for Skjelmose, he did great (i wouldn't have attacked then and there but it worked out for him) and cooperated as much as he could.
Fundamentally though, who cares. Cycling isn't just watts/kg and CdA, and it's nice to be reminded that you can win while clearly not being the strongest. In many ways, winning without being the strongest is more impressive than most of Pogacar's wins.
 
I feel pog didn’t plan to be solo so early, but just followed the move by alaphilippe and was suddenly solo without wanting.
Ilan van Wilder really helped Remco and skjelmose by keeping the gap down. Pog was already solo for 10k or more, before Remco put his nose in the wind. With 2 vs 1, pog was always having to work much harder. So I wouldn’t say pog was very bad, it’s just that he finally got some very dedicated chase by some really talented riders, and tactically they prepared the chase very well by not forcing it too early. I very much enjoyed this race, and hope for a similar one next week!
 
Maybe now it's been done, riders can stop panicking themselves into passivity every time Pog attacks and conceding defeat as soon as he goes up the road.
While I hope you are correct, given pack dynamics, I am not sure it will play out that way. They certainly tried to catch Remco for a longer period of time, but still more or less gave up. But hopefully it will be less comical in the future now
 
No clue what you are saying, all Im saying is that Remco was the only one being able to close Pog.

How do you know that? Remco closed him down WITH Skjelmose. There's no way to know if he would've done it without him cause he helped. You say Skjelmose was losing time to Pogacar and Remco + Skjelmose weren't and make that conclusion out of that but that doesn't make sense cause in one instance you have Pogacar vs. 1 guys and the other Pogacar vs 2 guys. Of course in the 2nd instance there's more chance to close down Pogacar.

Also Skjelmose was not losing time to Pog without Remco. That's a lie. I just checked. Status quo. No he was never going to close that on his own, but you also can't say for sure Remco would've done that (sure more chance than Skjelmose, but that's not the point). They helped eachother.