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http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/37616/reactions-to-the-bradley-wiggins-outburst
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Benotti69 said:Brailsford knows all about cowardice as he legged it after Millar got busted by the French cops.
What will be on offer at the the seminar. Science, that's what. trying to blind people with it. I hope Ashenden or someone similar goes.
Bicycle tramp said:Quoted at SBS Cycling Central -
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/37616/reactions-to-the-bradley-wiggins-outburst
Zam_Olyas said:I send it to liquigas.opqs and garmin, now i need sky and rsnt email.
Warum nur in vertraulicher Präsentation der ASO darlegen, weshalb Team Sky ein Vorbild ist? Weshalb nicht offen erklären, was ein vielleicht fragwürdiger Arzt im Team-Umfeld macht? Wenn es gute Gründe gibt, den sauberen Fahrern zu glauben, dann sollte man sie auch darlegen und Kritiker mit Argumenten statt mit Schimpfworten verstummen lassen.
rata de sentina said:I don't really understand your argument. No-one disputes Mr Wiggins rights to respond to his critics although I note that if he actually posted his comments here they would consist of a string of asterisks. Really his rant was just childish and unprofessional in the context of a press conference.
Nuash65 said:I'm going to throw my thoughts into this thread.
Firstly, I think Wiggins was wrong to use that language and I do like the OP's letter.
You'll notice that I have very few posts, even though I've been a member for a while. I learned a lot about cycling and doping from reading the Clinic and yet I never joined in. Indeed I only registered to ask if it was ok for a lurker to join the forum velogames minileague a couple of years ago. The reason is that SOME of the posters are so nasty – to each other, about certain cyclists and to newbies who dare to speak.
A lot of very intelligent stuff is posted and maybe the “banter” is meant to be just that. Maybe I need a thicker skin but I just never wanted to risk getting caught up in the slagging matches so I remained quiet. In fact I read the Clinic less and less because very little changes - it often feels like some members would be lost if drugs could magically be removed from the sport.
If I was Wiggins and I came to CN and read the forum I would be beyond horrified. The vitriol for him as a person and as a rider, never mind any suspicions of doping, is so extreme. I'd be wondering “how can people I've never met hate me SO much?” I'd be thinking how I've given everything I can to be the best cyclist I can be and yet CYCLING FANS despise me more than if I ran a major bank.
What I'm saying doesn't excuse his language but I want to say that I can imagine how he could be driven to such extreme anger towards and intolerance of anonymous critics. Quite apart from this, I think the forum might have a lot more contributors and be a nicer place to chat with other fans if it was less toxic.
Shaun Armstrong.
Nuash65 said:I'm going to throw my thoughts into this thread.
Firstly, I think Wiggins was wrong to use that language and I do like the OP's letter.
You'll notice that I have very few posts, even though I've been a member for a while. I learned a lot about cycling and doping from reading the Clinic and yet I never joined in. Indeed I only registered to ask if it was ok for a lurker to join the forum velogames minileague a couple of years ago. The reason is that SOME of the posters are so nasty – to each other, about certain cyclists and to newbies who dare to speak.
A lot of very intelligent stuff is posted and maybe the “banter” is meant to be just that. Maybe I need a thicker skin but I just never wanted to risk getting caught up in the slagging matches so I remained quiet. In fact I read the Clinic less and less because very little changes - it often feels like some members would be lost if drugs could magically be removed from the sport.
If I was Wiggins and I came to CN and read the forum I would be beyond horrified. The vitriol for him as a person and as a rider, never mind any suspicions of doping, is so extreme. I'd be wondering “how can people I've never met hate me SO much?” I'd be thinking how I've given everything I can to be the best cyclist I can be and yet CYCLING FANS despise me more than if I ran a major bank.
What I'm saying doesn't excuse his language but I want to say that I can imagine how he could be driven to such extreme anger towards and intolerance of anonymous critics. Quite apart from this, I think the forum might have a lot more contributors and be a nicer place to chat with other fans if it was less toxic.
Shaun Armstrong.
"Loved the response of @bradwiggins to his critics at the press conf. Get used to it, mate. It's windy at the top!"
No way. Rogers retweeting Vande Velde, man. Frickin' Rogers retweeting frickin' Vande Velde!roundabout said:Ahahahahahaha.
That even trumps Rogers.
Cavalier said:Because it's become abundantly clear that the pro-peloton are aware of us;
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sniper said:major surprise today:
bruyneel supports wiggins on twitter:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/wiggins-sorry-sweary-rant-183244277.html
sniper said:major surprise today:
bruyneel supports wiggins on twitter:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/wiggins-sorry-sweary-rant-183244277.html
Cavalier said:Thanks - let us know if you get a response. I will probably start circulating it tomorrow once I can sleep on it.