Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

[Taxus4a]

Gilles Le Roc'h for cyclismactu.net:

"Almost 10 years ago, I took the plane to Canada, more precisely to Toronto and from there to Hamilton, where the cycling world championships were being held. Indian summer guaranteed... In the Boeing of Air Canada, a skinny little 18 year old sits next to me. The coincidences of booking. Polite, smiling, reading. He sees me write an article on my laptop and, being curious, sees that it is about cycling. He asks some friendly questions, is interested in journalism. He makes lucid remarks, showing a certain covinction at his 18 years of age. Maturity, not yet.

"Me, I go cycling for fun", he says, "I am a student. I won't make it my job, but I like it a lot. My older brother is a professional, as was my father. It's a tradition in our family...

He, that was Andy Schleck (...)

Also interesting:

(...) those bad "friends" who pretend to love him, who take advantage of him, live off of his money and will be the last to help him.

Wonder who that is?

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-sai...endre-la-main-a-andy-schleck-raquo-30634.html

Also re: Lux' Federation President's comment. That guy is, like the vast majority of presidents of sport federations, a politician and an opportunist, and has never sat on a bike outside of a photo opp. Bottom line he has no idea what he's talking about, he just repeats what he believes the consensus is. That doesn't mean it's not true, simply he should in no way be considered an authority on the matter

The problem with him is that he don't take the cycling exactly as a job, but more as a hobby or a passion. Anyway he used to work for the team out of his objetives and his work training is OK despite the words of the Luxemburg Fed President.

Camaiore is going to be very important for his future.

He must finish without problems to believe that he worked properly in winter time (he twitted that a day he made 160 km in December, and that is not to be on holidays, because is about 5 hours training)

But as well he was in Xmast in NY in a Coldplay concent, that is not something bad, but it shows he could have been more focused in training and that his words about to be training in winter because he had his holydays in summer are not exactly like that, and he take his caprices. Anyway maybe that kind of things are good for him, but if he start with bad perfomance, it is normal remeber that.

 

[Christian]

Time elapsed since Andy Schleck last finished a race

 

[LaFlorecita]

I remember when I posted that I was attacked by cineteq.

 

[Christian]

I remember when I posted that I was attacked by cineteq.

Sorry for re-post

 

[Netserk]

I remember when I posted that I was attacked by cineteq.

Which just go to show to show that it wasn't fair for you to be attacked.

Anyway I thought Andy was scheduled to ride T-A, but is that still the case? And what will his program be for the spring?

EDIT: Maybe Miburo should create a poll whether or not there will go a year

 

[cineteq]

I remember when I posted that I was attacked by cineteq.

I wasn't attacking you, I was calling you out for having double standards, that's all.

 

[Taxus4a]

Andy is not riding Eroica.
I suppose he will ride Tirreno and nothing before

 

[Netserk]

Andy is not riding Eroica.
I suppose he will ride Tirreno and nothing before

He'll ride tomorrow

 

[Taxus4a]

He'll ride tomorrow

Yes yes, That I knew, sorry. I meant for next races

And he is not riding Tirreno as well, so I imagine he is going to change his calendar, and it depends his feelings tomorrow the team will chose for him the more appropiate calendar, but if he feels ok tomorrow, I mean finish behind but without major problems, he has to ride a lot, and some important race before Ardennes, as Basque Country (near my home, hehe)

 

[Eshnar]

He'll ride tomorrow

Do you reckon he'll manage to reach the signing sheet or he'll have to DNS?

 

[Netserk]

Do you reckon he'll manage to reach the signing sheet or he'll have to DNS?

DNF is what Abandony normally would do.

And see my signature He will make it a year

 

[Cyivel]

I believe in Andy

 

[ferryman]

I believe in Andy

Moi ausii. Despite what many post on here I've no doubt they would all want a fully fit Andy ready to take on AC in July. Non?

 

[Telmisartan new]

I believe in Andy

So do i.There will be a TDF to suit Andy. (no descending or unselective Pyrennean stages and a rare moment in his life when he's not dating 3 models,only kidding)

JV said years ago Wiggins would get a Tour to suit him,Sassi said Evans would need to win a GT to prove he's the best, preferably the Tour and one would come along to suit him,he needs to bide his time,in condition and on form he's a true force,my only long-term worry would be his mind.

I think it was Gallopin possibly who said when Andy tossed away the Giro to Di Luca "I got the impression he didn't remotely give a f**k"

Therein lies Andy's problem.

 

[Afrank]

Yes yes, That I knew, sorry. I meant for next races

And he is not riding Tirreno as well, so I imagine he is going to change his calendar, and it depends his feelings tomorrow the team will chose for him the more appropiate calendar, but if he feels ok tomorrow, I mean finish behind but without major problems, he has to ride a lot, and some important race before Ardennes, as Basque Country (near my home, hehe)

How do you know he won't ride Tirreno? Do you have a link?

If he can't finish tomorrows race, then I give up all hope of seeing a 2010 Andy again.

 

[Afrank]

So do i.There will be a TDF to suit Andy. (no descending or unselective Pyrennean stages and a rare moment in his life when he's not dating 3 models,only kidding)

JV said years ago Wiggins would get a Tour to suit him,Sassi said Evans would need to win a GT to prove he's the best, preferably the Tour and one would come along to suit him,he needs to bide his time,in condition and on form he's a true force,my only long-term worry would be his mind.

I think it was Gallopin possibly who said when Andy tossed away the Giro to Di Luca "I got the impression he didn't remotely give a f**k"

Therein lies Andy's problem.

This is absolutely not what he needs to do. He needs to man up, start taking things seriously, and show us the Andy that attacked from 60 K out wasn't a once in a lifetime thing. If he just waits for a Tour to that suits him he won't find any success in cycling. He also needs to realize that there are other races besides the Tour, I would much rather see him at the Giro or Vuelta.

 

[Taxus4a]

How do you know he won't ride Tirreno? Do you have a link?

If he can't finish tomorrows race, then I give up all hope of seeing a 2010 Andy again.

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=59752

RADIOSHACK LEOPARD LUX
151 CANCELLARA Fabian SUI
152 DEVOLDER Stijn BEL
153 HONDO Danilo GER
154 HORNER Christopher USA
155 NIZZOLO Giacomo ITA
156 POPOVYCH Yaroslav UKR
157 RAST Grégory SUI
158 ROULSTON Hayden NZL
DIRECTOR: ANDERSEN Kim

I think he is going to finish today, it is a 200 km race with 6 quite hard climbs and the first one could be the most important problem for Andy because lot of riders will want to get the breakaway, but if he did a good winter and he has trained well in Mallorca these days, he should do it and finish in time.
Maybe we see him even better of that finishing in an intermediate group.

 

[Publicus]

He'll ride tomorrow

I hope the peloton is nice to him this time! Last time out the made fun of him and he got a case of the sads.

 

[Christian]

I think it was Gallopin possibly who said when Andy tossed away the Giro to Di Luca "I got the impression he didn't remotely give a f**k"

I haven't heard this yeat, but I am not sure one can say he "tossed it away". It was his first GT and he had no experience on how to race in such a situation, plus he didn't know his own capacity quite yet. I recall that he said afterwards he wished he had raced more agressively, but at the time was afraid it would come back to haunt him. Plus in the final ITT he did really well for his standards IIRC. Plus Di Luca was a beast and "had the testosterone level of a 13 year old".

 

[Netserk]

Moi ausii. Despite what many post on here I've no doubt they would all want a fully fit Andy ready to take on AC in July. Non?

I just want him to retire

 

[Christian]

good idea, cyrille

Interesting comment by Cyrille Guimard (former trainer of Andy at VC Roubaix):

"More passion, less business"

"I am convinced that Andy would be more at home in a team like FDJ. There, it is still about passion for cycling and not only business. I repeat: he must find his love for cycling again. 80% is passion".

http://www.wort.lu/de/view/niemand-sagt-ihm-andy-du-bist-ein-trottel-512e7a57e4b0367ed8ec3ee9

 

[jens_attacks]

I haven't heard this yeat, but I am not sure one can say he "tossed it away". It was his first GT and he had no experience on how to race in such a situation, plus he didn't know his own capacity quite yet. I recall that he said afterwards he wished he had raced more agressively, but at the time was afraid it would come back to haunt him. Plus in the final ITT he did really well for his standards IIRC. Plus Di Luca was a beast and "had the testosterone level of a 13 year old".

let's call it the level of andy

hopefully he will do ok today, he needs the kilometers

 

[serfla]

I see vermin, looking for corpse to feast up on, have crawled out of rotten log again.
Don't be surprised when you get squashed. It's simply your destiny.

 

[Telmisartan new]

This is absolutely not what he needs to do. He needs to man up, start taking things seriously, and show us the Andy that attacked from 60 K out wasn't a once in a lifetime thing. If he just waits for a Tour to that suits him he won't find any success in cycling. He also needs to realize that there are other races besides the Tour, I would much rather see him at the Giro or Vuelta.

For a start there is no chance of him doing anything in a GT this year given his current situation, secondly there is little to no chance of him doing the Giro or Vuelta anytime soon, he considers himself a "Tour de France rider" and thirdly the whole point of my post is that sometimes the cards fall right for a certain rider in a certain year. All this man up, become more mature stuff is oversimplifying his problems in my view.He's been affected by winning the TDF not how he wanted it(although had no control over that), by Frank's problems and by the failed appointment of Bruyneel.Its not simply a case of grow up Andy, its slightly more nuanced than that.

 

[Telmisartan new]

I haven't heard this yeat, but I am not sure one can say he "tossed it away". It was his first GT and he had no experience on how to race in such a situation, plus he didn't know his own capacity quite yet. I recall that he said afterwards he wished he had raced more agressively, but at the time was afraid it would come back to haunt him. Plus in the final ITT he did really well for his standards IIRC. Plus Di Luca was a beast and "had the testosterone level of a 13 year old".

"Tossed away the Giro" was someone's else's words, journalist guy in Pro Cycling magazine, Di Luca had the strongest team and "the testosterone level of a 13 year old" as you correctly point out.