Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

[LaFlorecita]

the guy who came 1st in 2010 cheated. if schleck came 2nd to someone on a motorbike would he not be the true winner?!

officially he didn't cheat and the amount wasn't performance enhancing. He got a sentence even though he was deemed not guilty by the judges. only in sports law

 

[Netserk]

How can I take you seriously when your signature contradicts your legends list?

So one can't be both a legend and overrated? So it's impossible to overrate Contador and Boonen?

 

[willbick]

why do you include well-known drug cheats in your list of 'legends'?

 

[LaFlorecita]

having said that im not 100% sure about 2010 schleck. the way he went past guys like they were standing still after dropping his chain that time was....hmmmmm

Let's take it to the clinic

 

[LaFlorecita]

why do you include well-known drug cheats in your list of 'legends'?

Because loads of all time greats used doping

 

[LaFlorecita]

So one can't be both a legend and overrated? So it's impossible to overrate Contador and Boonen?

You're overrating Alberto so it's definitely possible

 

[willbick]

perhaps thats why they were 'all time greats'

 

[Red Rick]

why do you include well-known drug cheats in your list of 'legends'?

Why don't you discuss this in the clinic, or is it because half of the threads in there are about your beloved sky team

 

[willbick]

i dont 'love' SKY. im not that sad. im not even a 'fan' of theirs. i just happen to believe they are clean, that is all.

 

[Red Rick]

i dont 'love' SKY. im not that sad. im not even a 'fan' of theirs. i just happen to believe they are clean, that is all.

alright
...

 

[Netserk]

Enough with clinic talk.

 

[Angliru]

I don't consider Ullrich and Lemond legends

Being the first Anglo and American to win the Tour and then win 3 of them is part of what gives Lemond legend status. Add to that his battles with Hinault and Fignon and his legend status is pretty much cemented. How many Tours does it take to make legend status in your eyes?

 

[Parrulo]

Deleted material (Sorry Parrulo ) *Edited by Netserk*

funny that "how a performance looked" isn't considered evidence when talking about sky according to you.

anyway this discussion should continue in the clinic

 

[LaFlorecita]

Being the first Anglo and American to win the Tour and then win 3 of them is part of what gives Lemond legend status. Add to that his battles with Hinault and Fignon and his legend status is pretty much cemented. How many Tours does it take to make legend status in your eyes?

Imo there is not one magic number of tour victories that gives one legend status. more the entire palmares and the way of racing.

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

Why is the Andy Schleck thread one of the most frequented on the whole forum?

 

[Netserk]

Why is the Andy Schleck thread one of the most frequented on the whole forum?

Because many bash him.

 

[Angliru]

Imo there is not one magic number of tour victories that gives one legend status. more the entire palmares and the way of racing.

...and with the above post you contradict a previous post where you state Contador has to win 5 more grand tours to make legend status. His way of racing is old school and his entire palmares up to this point is impressive enough to warrant at the least serious consideration . Plus he vanquished the former Tour juggernaut (since erased from the records) while battling inter-team turmoil.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Because many bash him.

Indeed. What is the rider discussion thread with most replies almost no bashing there

 

[Angliru]

Why is the Andy Schleck thread one of the most frequented on the whole forum?

Because he is a rolling soap opera, with material for discussion neverending. He's the horn of plenty of the pro peloton.

 

[LaFlorecita]

...and with the above post you contradict a previous post where you state Contador has to win 5 more grand tours to make legend status. His way of racing is old school and his entire palmares up to this point is impressive enough to warrant at the least serious consideration . Plus he vanquished the former Tour juggernaut (since erased from the records) while battling inter-team turmoil.

What I mean is that the number is different for every rider. Obviously Boonen is a legend and he hasn't won any GTs. Yes for Alberto at least 5 more GTs and some other stage races, classics and worlds

 

[Red Rick]

When in 30 years people are talking about this era of cycling, which riders are they gonna remember the most? I can't imagine Contador en Boonen not being one of them

 

[Netserk]

What I mean is that the number is different for every rider. Obviously Boonen is a legend and he hasn't won any GTs. Yes for Alberto at least 5 more GTs and some other stage races, classics and worlds

Contador is a legend. If he retired today he would be considered a legend now and in 20 years. No doubt.

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

Indeed. What is the rider discussion thread with most replies almost no bashing there

You do do not allow bashing there. In that thread you jump on every anti-Contador post and label it unequivocal trolling. In this thread Andy can be mocked by you (and others) freely

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador is a legend. If he retired today he would be considered a legend now and in 20 years. No doubt.

But why I mean his palmares is great but by far not as impressive as those of cycling's all time greats.

 

[Netserk]

But why I mean his palmares is great but by far not as impressive as those of cycling's all time greats.

See your earlier post:

More the entire palmares and the way of racing.