Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

[airstream]

Andy rides and act so he can **** with internet forums?

Zam, that is not the question. The thing is that bashing itself is raised to absurd. I bet 2010 Vuelta and Fuentes replaced ordinary erotic fantasies for some people.

 

[Arnout]

What does the crash of Anton have to do with my erotic fantasies?

 

[airstream]

What does the crash of Anton have to do with my erotic fantasies?

I mean Andy in the 2010 Vuelta surely.

 

[Arnout]

What did he do there, I can't remember?

 

[Mellow Velo]

What did he do there, I can't remember?

Neither can he.

Clue: Stuart O'Grady.....

 

[Angliru]

Zam, that is not the question. The thing is that bashing itself is raised to absurd. I bet 2010 Vuelta and Fuentes replaced ordinary erotic fantasies for some people.

One person's bashing is another's revisiting of the facts of an event. You just take it as bashing because you can't handle the truth.

 

[Froome19]

Zam, that is not the question. The thing is that bashing itself is raised to absurd. I bet 2010 Vuelta and Fuentes replaced ordinary erotic fantasies for some people.

In truth that episode highlighted Andy's foibles and that is something which all cyclists have to a degree.
It depicted a certain level of unprofessiolasm but that is something that can be expected from all riders and it is certainly part of Andy's nature.
I do not hate him or even dislike him for that, yet it is certainly not something which can be justified as are other things he does.
In truth I regard him as a very talented rider who has his problems but can really excel if he works on them. He is certainly not a bad man, and I love his riding when he is at his peak (LBL and the Tour) but he needs to correct those because to achieve your potential cycling requires a certain level of just riding and he needs to prove to the world he can do that and only that.

 

[jobiwan]

Zam, that is not the question. The thing is that bashing itself is raised to absurd. I bet 2010 Vuelta and Fuentes replaced ordinary erotic fantasies for some people.

You can't deny he brings most of this on himself. He rides the rest of the year in preparation for the Tour, and in doing so his non-Tour palmarès are few and far between.

If he applied himself to a whole season instead of just one race, he would be so much more successful, and in turn, he might actually gain some respect from more of the posters on here.

This is coming from an Andy fan, here.

 

[JimPanzen]

I don't know, but I get the feeling that Bruyneel and Schleck are putting on one hell of a show here. It's the upgrated "Lance pretends to suffer before the final climb" move, now extended to the whole season before the Tour

 

[Moviefan1203]

I don't know, but I get the feeling that Bruyneel and Schleck are putting on one hell of a show here. It's the upgrated "Lance pretends to suffer before the final climb" move, now extended to the whole season before the Tour

I'm starting to think that too. This is just getting too far fetched.

 

[Willy_Voet]

The more I read about real-life A. Schleck, the more he seems like his character in 'As the Toto Turns'.

Art imitating Life, imitating Art, or is it Life imitating Art, imitating Life?

 

[airstream]

In truth that episode highlighted Andy's foibles and that is something which all cyclists have to a degree.
It depicted a certain level of unprofessiolasm but that is something that can be expected from all riders and it is certainly part of Andy's nature.
I do not hate him or even dislike him for that, yet it is certainly not something which can be justified as are other things he does.
In truth I regard him as a very talented rider who has his problems but can really excel if he works on them. He is certainly not a bad man, and I love his riding when he is at his peak (LBL and the Tour) but he needs to correct those because to achieve your potential cycling requires a certain level of just riding and he needs to prove to the world he can do that and only that.

Сertainly, but cycling is such a special sport that riding the only race a rider can provide himself with money, fame, fans expectations in the years in advance. Additionaly, they are superelite, the guys who create a grand content of this sport. Each of them has its approach, methodics of preparation, etc and we have to handle this as it is if we like cycling itself rather than themselves in our own cycling views. Therefore, such massive hatred and bashing never cease to surprise me in the first place because this goes against a common culture of cycling support (rooting for someone) always percieving riders as real heroes and being able to appreciate how it's hard. I gladly watched how italians supported Purito in the Giro. Most of them would prefer to see Ivan or Michele in a leader jersey, but it is a maglia rosa and maglia rosa means the man is very very worthy. For his age, Andy achieved so much in cycling, and saying that he can't suffer or is lazy simply makes me laugh. Apparently such nonsense is just a safety valve for negative emotions forum members use.

If he applied himself to a whole season instead of just one race, he would be so much more successful, and in turn

It's just an assumption. No one knows.

 

[Angliru]

You can't deny he brings most of this on himself. He rides the rest of the year in preparation for the Tour, and in doing so his non-Tour palmarès are few and far between.

If he applied himself to a whole season instead of just one race, he would be so much more successful, and in turn, he might actually gain some respect from more of the posters on here.

This is coming from an Andy fan, here.

Of course that is of minimal importance (the bolded part) but what I have to question is that compared to some of his grand tour gc contemporaries, he seems to lack that endless need to compete that many of the rest seem to have. Valverde, Evans, Nibali, Basso, Contador, Purito, Samu: they all seem to possess a level of pride and competitive fire that comes into play whenever they race. Sometimes they may falter but most of the time they seem to putting forth the effort to put up a battle and compete. I just don't see that with Andy but I do see it with Frank which is rather odd since Andy so looks up to his big brother.

 

[patrick767]

Why is Andy Schleck at the Dauphine if he's not even going to keep up with the peloton? If the idea is simply conditioning and getting more race days in his legs, one would think he'd at least want to keep up with the main bunch.

As for only racing to win in the TdF, Schlecklet takes that approach to extremes. If his wikipedia entry is correct, his only major victory in other races was the 2009 Liège–Bastogne–Liège. That's it. All that talent. One race.

I'm reminded of another TdF rider who was much maligned for focusing solely on the Tour, Lance Armstrong. He won a world championship (granted that was long before his TdF wins), La Flèche Wallonne, the Tour of Luxembourg, the Tour de Suisse, and the Critérium du Dauphiné (twice). It's not much for a 7 time TdF winner, but at least he occasionally raced to win outside of the TdF.

Wiggins and Evans are certainly preparing for Le Tour, but they're also putting in strong performances at Dauphine.

 

[Gubby Allen]

Dropped by Hinault & Ciolek?

 

[Angliru]

Dropped by Hinault & Ciolek?

He was spinning high gears working on the supple nature of his pedal stroke.
He can't be bothered with results at this point.

 

[Captain Sensible]

After watching the highlights I don't believe it was lack of form that made him drop from the peloton just that he is just not interested in the race.
He needs a kick up the **** by his team sponsors as its there names associated with him.

 

[ultimobici]

He was spinning high gears working on the supple nature of his pedal stroke.
He can't be bothered with results at this point.

A victory prior to the Tour is surely worth more than yet another second?

 

[webbie146]

I don't know, but I get the feeling that Bruyneel and Schleck are putting on one hell of a show here. It's the upgrated "Lance pretends to suffer before the final climb" move, now extended to the whole season before the Tour

Jup, rope a dope Just like on the alp d'huez stage lol

 

[Oldskoolkool]

I think his general attitude stinks really,he's a paid professional,his job is to perform for his team and sponsors,whether it be winning races or contributing to the team's efforts.
If he wants to race when it suits him then he should get the hell out of the professional ranks,and go back to being an amateur,leaving space for a rider who is willing to give it all for his team.
At the moment both he and to a lesser extent his brother seem like expensive flops,not worthy of their place on the team. They need a damn good kick up the ****,and to stop behaving like petulant children who don't want to do what they're told.

 

[Lexman]

It's not worrying that he let the main bunch go says Bruyneel about today's stage :

http://www.sporza.be/cm/sporza/wiel...schleck?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

 

[B_Ugli]

I think his general attitude stinks really,he's a paid professional,his job is to perform for his team and sponsors,whether it be winning races or contributing to the team's efforts.
If he wants to race when it suits him then he should get the hell out of the professional ranks,and go back to being an amateur,leaving space for a rider who is willing to give it all for his team.
At the moment both he and to a lesser extent his brother seem like expensive flops,not worthy of their place on the team. They need a damn good kick up the ****,and to stop behaving like petulant children who don't want to do what they're told.

+1. I couldnt put it better myself! Much as i dont like Bruyneel he should sack the two little twits as with their attitudes i cant see then getting a ride elsewhere.

 

[Galic Ho]

+1. I couldnt put it better myself! Much as i dont like Bruyneel he should sack the two little twits as with their attitudes i cant see then getting a ride elsewhere.

Yeah, lets just fire the most consistent performer the last four years at the Tour. Brilliant move. Johan is no fool. Performance wise he knows where it needs to be at and is remarkebly astute at estimating the performance indicators of rivals. He's made numerous predictions...Cadel won't win the 2008 Tour was one, that Hesjedal could win a GT if he picked the right one. Not a brilliant motivator, but astute enough to know what needs to be done.

He's seen Andy race before, knows what he is doing. Yes it's dull, yes it's probably throwing great potential away, but it's what Andy Schleck has chosen to do for years and years. He is right where he wants to be. He is on form this year. We'll know in the first week. If he is up there, like in 2010, he is in shape. Last year his first week at the Tour was off. That was a sign he wasn't 100%. Yet he still came second. Andy climbs like he did in 2009 and 2010, better, if he drops Franck, a lot of people are going to rethink who can win the Tour. Andy Schleck can win this Tour. He has the natural talent and the records to suggest so. It will all come down to attitude.

Maybe the Bruyneel garbage, the desire and losing last year will drive him. The right combination of factors could see him finally go out and deliver day in day out and deliver on his talent and finally win a Tour. Everyone here should be hoping for that as a fan of cycling. He is the best climber in the world riding ATM. By some margin. Lets hope he shows that this July over the entire three weeks. Will make this Tour worth watching over the snooze fest so many Brits here are praying and sacrificing small children for.

 

[Ripper]

I think you should take this another place.

No need to, it was just a reference point on how sh*tty he's been riding, even by his own weak standards. Any slingshot into super form in less than a month will be more than a bit over the top.

On another note, Nice ride today by po0fbag shrek (and seriously, po0f is a screened for foul language??)

 

[Ripper]

The more I read about real-life A. Schleck, the more he seems like his character in 'As the Toto Turns'.

Art imitating Life, imitating Art, or is it Life imitating Art, imitating Life?

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