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VeloCity

VeloCity

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LaFlorecita said:
Maybe a fan's character is really close to the character of the rider they're a fan of. In that case I'm even more proud to be a Alberto fangirl.
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He's currently serving a doping ban for which he tried to blame tainted steak. What kind of character does that reflect? ;)
 
VeloCity

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Fetisoff said:
Baiting, eh????
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I'm not the one claiming that the character of the rider is reflective of the poster. That would be Alberto supporters. Just pointing out that of the two "characters", one is currently sitting out for a doping ban.
 
VeloCity

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nowhereman said:
Andy Schleck and Alberto Contador are both great, just different riders???:eek: Are y'all stoned, or what? Andy's record......
You call this GREAT??: 2011- ONE stage win at the TdF and coming in 2nd after miserable failure of strategy and performance on the penultimate days ITT. (BTW that's it for 2011, results wise)
2010- 2 stage wins at the TdF then handed the title that he DID NOT WIN on the road. Luxembourg ITT champ.... oh and oops! That's it for 2010 Wow! Great year.
2009-Probably the best year of his career so far- a year that showed "potential"
Luxembourg Road Champ, 1st Liege-Bastogne-Liege, won one stage of the Tour of Luxembourg, 2nd overall at the TdF, along with 1st in the young rider category.
2008- TdF Young rider-1st, 12th overall. 1 stage win in the Tour of Poland
2007-2nd overall at the Giro, and 1st young rider at the Giro(which put him on the map)
Is that GREATNESS???
Compare this to Alberto's palmares, and YES they sure are "different" riders.
2011- Alberto is stripped of his Giro D'Italia title that he won convincingly, along with the 6th place at the TdF, and some other results......but I digress.
2010-Oops, stripped him of his Tour de France victory, and GAVE it to the Great Andy Schleck. But before that debacle Alberto took the titles at Paris-Nice along with 1 stage win. And he took the Volta Algarve with 1 stage win, and the Vuelta Castilla y Leon with 1 stage win(ITT).
2009-He was the Spanish ITT Champ, He won the TdF, most notably taking 2 stage victories, and beating his own team, and Lance Armstrong, along with Schleck and the rest of the free world! And that after, he had taken the Volta Algarve(+1), and Pais Vasco(+2) titles along with stage wins in both and finishing 4th in Paris-Nice with 2 stage victories.
2008-Took the Giro title with one weeks notice that Astana had been invited (Are you listening, Frank?) and took 2 stages too. Won the Vuelta a Espana and took 2 stages. Also was 4th in the ITT at the Beijing Olympics, and took Castilla y Leon with 2 stage wins, and the Pais Vasco title with 2 stage wins.
2007 saw him take Castilla y Leon + 1 stage win, And The Paris- Nice title 2 stage wins and the Young rider jersey, Along with winning his first TOUR DE FRANCE title, along with the best young riders jersey, and 1 stage win.
DIFFERENT riders? You bet your bootie they are different riders. Alberto is a champion. Andy is an overrated, babied, cutie boy, that seems limited to one target a year. And he's yet to take a big one, on the road. He knows it and all his fans know it too, whether they want to admit it or not. The records do the talking. I've just put it on the table. chew on that a little.
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Stripped of his titles, eh? Wonder what that's all about. ;)
 
LaFlorecita

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VeloCity said:
Stripped of his titles, eh? Wonder what that's all about. ;)
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We know who won those races. Anyway I'm going to stop replying to you because you're only baiting me and I promised AG that whenever I don't agree with someone about Alberto that I'd think "whatever, I know better than that" and just ignore them.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Yes. I'm not going to reply. We all know Alberto's character.
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I'm surprised, TBH. You would have swallowed this bait even couple weeks ago, I'd say. Did Susan have a chat with your, or you're genuenly bored of trying to get your points across to people who don't care, and just want to troll?
 
LaFlorecita

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Fetisoff said:
I'm surprised, TBH. You would have swallowed this bait even couple weeks ago, I'd say. Did Susan have a chat with your, or you're genuenly bored of trying to get your points across to people who don't care, and just want to troll?
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Yes and yes. :p

Plus what AG said to me made a lot of sense so I'm trying to do as she told me.
 
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Publicus said:
Clinic is that way----->

Also, I'd encourage you to actually, you know READ the CAS decision. It's very interesting reading.
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Reading is so overhyped these years. Better watch some talent show, and hear in a commercial that they banned him for doping from an expert.
 
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VeloCity said:
Stripped of his titles, eh? Wonder what that's all about. ;)
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2011 Giro cleaner than an "F"ing whistle, and you know it. And He kicked their chamois' all over the country side. 2010 comes along with it's Nanograms of "clenbuterol" a drug you and almost everybody else had no idea about. Even CAS didn't come up with an unambiguous conclusion on his case. They claimed it was a tainted food supplement. What supplement? they don't know, it was just SOME tainted supplement. They had to blame something, rather than believe his defense, so that people like YOU would feel that justice was served. And now you and all the other "haters" want to summarily name him a "doper" and dismiss him, and then act as if those nanograms were responsible for his winning the Tour in 2010. My return to all the idiotic haters is that he did eat tainted meat, and the exhaustion, and sick look you saw on his face after the last ITT was because of that tainted meat. You guys can believe what you want, and feel satisfied with yourselves that he's been punished (though, through what I've read, most of y'all don't think he's been punished enough) But he will be back, and he does knows how to win, unlike Schleck.
Go ahead, keep crowing about Schlecks lone L-B-L victory. But no matter how loud you crow, one win does not make a champion out of a chump. Anyway you look at it, forward or backwards, it ain't looking good for A Schleck, especially if he keeps going as has become his habit. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
 
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nowhereman said:
2011 Giro cleaner than an "F"ing whistle, and you know it. And He kicked their chamois' all over the country side. 2010 comes along with it's Nanograms of "clenbuterol" a drug you and almost everybody else had no idea about. Even CAS didn't come up with an unambiguous conclusion on his case. They claimed it was a tainted food supplement. What supplement? they don't know, it was just SOME tainted supplement. They had to blame something, rather than believe his defense, so that people like YOU would feel that justice was served. And now you and all the other "haters" want to summarily name him a "doper" and dismiss him, and then act as if those nanograms were responsible for his winning the Tour in 2010. My return to all the idiotic haters is that he did eat tainted meat, and the exhaustion, and sick look you saw on his face after the last ITT was because of that tainted meat. You guys can believe what you want, and feel satisfied with yourselves that he's been punished (though, through what I've read, most of y'all don't think he's been punished enough) But he will be back, and he does knows how to win, unlike Schleck.
Go ahead, keep crowing about Schlecks lone L-B-L victory. But no matter how loud you crow, one win does not make a champion out of a chump. Anyway you look at it, forward or backwards, it ain't looking good for A Schleck, especially if he keeps going as has become his habit. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
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You read my thoughts, but expressed them a lot better than I could. Thanks for a great post!
 
Cimber

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Feking hell, I thought this was the Andy thread and not the Bertie one :rolleyes:

Anyways, Both of the bros look like they wont be in top shape for the Tour imho. That said, Andy is known for being able to reach top form extremely fast.

However, should evertything fail for them (bad form and bad route for them) I would love if one of them passed the Tour and focused on the Vuelta, to give us a showdown with Alberto. Tbh I think a move where Andy and Alberto arent in the Tour but both do the Vuelta would bring the Vuelta in as the top GC in 2012. However, I doubt it will happen. At the time we reach the Vuelta Andy will prefer a few pints with his old mate Stuart ;)
 
T-Nielsen

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Publicus said:
I don't think it was the disc wheel at all. How many other riders also had a disc wheel and didn't crash? From what I can tell from the photos, all of them.
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It was not Andys fault, it was the wind...

It was not Andys fault, it was the descend...

It was not Andys fault, it was the milkman...

etc...

You can just see them comming, can't you...
 
Fidolix

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Cimber said:
Feking hell, I thought this was the Andy thread and not the Bertie one :rolleyes:

Anyways, Both of the bros look like they wont be in top shape for the Tour imho. That said, Andy is known for being able to reach top form extremely fast.

However, should evertything fail for them (bad form and bad route for them) I would love if one of them passed the Tour and focused on the Vuelta, to give us a showdown with Alberto. Tbh I think a move where Andy and Alberto arent in the Tour but both do the Vuelta would bring the Vuelta in as the top GC in 2012. However, I doubt it will happen. At the time we reach the Vuelta Andy will prefer a few pints with his old mate Stuart ;)
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You really think the Schlecks would have the courage to meet a mad as hell, angry, mean and well oiled vengeful mountain goat like Berti in his first grand tour after his ban? Not in a million years would any of them dare to face this punishment and humiliation that they know will come.

But I admit, its a dream I would love to see happen.
 
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Even by Andy standards (I am setting the bar low :p), this season is really imploding. I mean ... forget top 10, he was in the last 10. Wow. There is no reasonable way he is going to do well in the Tour this year.

Perhaps he will approach next year like a bike racer?
 
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TourOfSardinia said:
Today's standing:

102. SCHLECK Andy 71 RSN 4h 56' 16" + 13' 59"
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Baby shambles
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As the team motto goes, if you're going to tank its best to tank hard. He's just keeping the bad performance going now or it will mean he's hiding or holding back, its full on (insert John Loveits) "ACTING"!
 
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Andy about today's stage:

“I had a lot of problems,” said Andy Schleck. “I woke up with pain not only on my rear end from the road rash but also a rib. The rib is not broken but it hurts a lot. And the right side of my chest is black and blue. The climbing went well as long as I could stay seated in the saddle but when you have to do a sprint after a corner. . . I did 90 percent of the stage in the saddle.

"The most important thing is that I go on and do race kilometers. I need the race rhythm. In the beginning of the season when a time comes like this, you can think of abandoning but that is not an option now with the Tour in four weeks. There is no turning back. And I find some relief in knowing that other guys crashed yesterday where I did, so it wasn’t just me. One of them even broke his hand so I have to say I am lucky. Plus today I rode the Grand Colombier. It was a good recon for the Tour stage on July 11. It is a hard climb but not harder than other Tour climbs. Tomorrow’s Joux-Plane is harder and more important since it’s closer to the finish.”
 
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