Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

[The Hitch]

Great, 8 paragraphs and god knows how many words arguing in favor of Contador's condition (which is what it will ultimately lead to) being discussed in an Andy Schleck thread.

If we stop every conversation the second it takes a slightly different tangent all threads willstruggle to get into double figures with posts.

The thread is about appreciating Andy Schleck's attack on stage 18of last years tour. contador was a key actor in that tour, and a major story of the stage as well.as being Andy Schleck's.main rival in his career.

Him coming up in the.thread is.therefore at times.(and not necessarily every time he comes up) understandable.

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

Well I assume CV is a native speaker. Really, for me most of your posts are incomprehensible.

I find most of them entertaining (and coherent), although I can't yet tell if the Andy love is totally geniune or a tongue in cheek way of winding up the AC fanboys/girls.

 

[airstream]

I find most of them entertaining (and coherent), although I can't yet tell if the Andy love is totally geniune or a tongue in cheek way of winding up the AC fanboys/girls.

No, I have my own sympathies that have nothing to do with Contador. Andy is like a separate climber universe for me. There is no one next to.

 

[united123]

Lol the last 2 yrs these 2 have raced in le Tour Andy Schleck has been the superiour climber,i personally can not wait their's 1 long ITT and all these little mtf most of these are hills so i think if Andy recover's well he can beat the great one.

 

[roundabout]

If we stop every conversation the second it takes a slightly different tangent all threads willstruggle to get into double figures with posts.

The thread is about appreciating Andy Schleck's attack on stage 18of last years tour. contador was a key actor in that tour, and a major story of the stage as well.as being Andy Schleck's.main rival in his career.

Him coming up in the.thread is.therefore at times.(and not necessarily every time he comes up) understandable.

First of all, nobody stopped the conversation. At least I didn't. The Contador thread is still there and still open.

Secondly, I still don't see a reason why Contador's crashes and the state of his knee on that particular day should be the main talking point of this thread. After all, since Andy's attack had nothing to do with Contador getting dropped, the only connection to the main subject of this thread is that both happened on the same day. It could even be a coincidence that Contador's knee got worse on the day his main rival attacked.

And finally, given that for no apparent reason I would occasionally get certain notifications from the mods when conversing with you, I'd prefer to adhere to to the rules.

 

[burning]

Andy's attack at that stage was brilliant in every aspect, no doubt about it (Sending Poosthuma and Monfort to break, O'Grady working at the peloton, Poostuma working at break was pretty brilliant) and Andy finished almost extremely well and won tour.

But the attack from Contador was much more crazy and entertaining to me, as no tactics were involved. There was simply pure one on one struggle between riders

 

[The Hitch]

First of all, nobody stopped the conversation. At least I didn't. The Contador thread is still there and still open.

Secondly, I still don't see a reason why Contador's crashes and the state of his knee on that particular day should be the main talking point of this thread. After all, since Andy's attack had nothing to do with Contador getting dropped, the only connection to the main subject of this thread is that both happened on the same day. It could even be a coincidence that Contador's knee got worse on the day his main rival attacked.

The connection is simple. The conversation as to how devastating andy's attack was, came to the question of whether we can count contador as a casualty of the attack.

Simple and i think.most would agree, kosher.

Hope that helps

 

[LaFlorecita]

Lol the last 2 yrs these 2 have raced in le Tour Andy Schleck has been the superiour climber,i personally can not wait their's 1 long ITT and all these little mtf most of these are hills so i think if Andy recover's well he can beat the great one.

frandy is that you?

 

[LaFlorecita]

No, I have my own sympathies that have nothing to do with Contador. Andy is like a separate climber universe for me. There is no one next to.

Look, this seems weird to me. You are completely entitled to your own opinion, but I just don't get it. I can understand that you think Andy is the best climber, but you have to acknowledge that guys like Alberto, Samu aren't much worse.

 

[roundabout]

The connection is simple. The conversation as to how devastating andy's attack was, came to the question of whether we can count contador as a casualty of the attack.

Simple and i think.most would agree, kosher.

Hope that helps

No, it doesn't help.

Discussing whether or not Contador was affected by the attack would amount to discussing Contador and the reasons why he was not good on the day. There will likely be very little about Schleck in that discussion and more about crashes, mechanicals, Contador's underwear color, acupuncture and other therapy methods.

 

[The Hitch]

Well then the question as to how good andy's attack was, could never truly be answered.

To get to grips with a question and get a well researched conclusion, sometimes its.necessary to tackle the peripheral issued in depth.

 

[LaFlorecita]

No, it doesn't help.

Discussing whether or not Contador was affected by the attack would amount to discussing Contador and the reasons why he was not good on the day. There will likely be very little about Schleck in that discussion and more about crashes, mechanicals, Contador's underwear color, acupuncture and other therapy methods.

It wasn't his underwear.

 

[airstream]

Look, this seems weird to me. You are completely entitled to your own opinion, but I just don't get it. I can understand that you think Andy is the best climber, but you have to acknowledge that guys like Alberto, Samu aren't much worse.

I never said he's far stronger than Samu / Alberto. Andy is just a special man filling me with positive emotinons. I'm really dazzled by his climber manner, a very aesthetically beautiful one. Just like the guys who do everything playfully as a piece of cake.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I never said he's a far stronger than Samu / Alberto. Andy is just a special man filling me with positive emotinons. I'm really dazzled by his climber manner, a very aesthetically beautiful one. Just like the guys who do everything playfully as a piece of cake.

Okay, I now understand you better. I don't necessarily agree, but that doesn't matter. Everyone can have their own opinion.

 

[roundabout]

Well then the question as to how good andy's attack was, could never truly be answered.

To get to grips with a question and get a well researched conclusion, sometimes its.necessary to tackle the peripheral issued in depth.

You can dissect any topic like this.

But strangely that doesn't seem to happen with other topics.

 

[roundabout]

It wasn't his underwear.

You would think that a rider earning millions per year can afford his own shorts.

 

[LaFlorecita]

You would think that a rider earning millions per year can afford his own shorts.

Lol nice.

 

[OctaBech]

Yes of course Evans went up the last climb faster than Andy. Andy had been out 49 k by then.

Though not in front and it was diesel Evans (I expect this to be self explanatory ).

 

[OctaBech]

I don't think that you could say that Andy directly cracked AC. This implies the two riding together then Andy suddenly (and massively) leaving Contador behind. In fact, when Contador bonked, he was, like the rest of the group, rapidly reducing Andy's advantage. It was Evans' push to catch Andy that dropped Contador.

Great point and it turns the debate upside down. Neither Andy nor Contador were strong enough last year to crack the rest of the competition.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Please...

.. tell me that this is not really happening..

http://jyllands-posten.dk/sport/cykling/article4736841.ece

Andy: I deserve my Tour victory



Basically the usual nonsense, says he would have won the Tour if his chain hadn't popped.

But. He now says that he deserves the Tour victory. WTF. There is something terribly wrong with this kid.

Also, he should learn that it's not very smart to change your story every ****ing time you get interviewed.

Of course I took the liberty to comment on the matter on twitter:

Does @andy_schleck know what moving on means? Seriously, get over it already. @albertocontador won the 2010 Tour, stop whining.

@andy_schleck If you don't like the way you lost, learn how to shift gears. Oh, and point the finger at yourself FOR ONCE.

 

[airstream]

you'd better learn some сycling materiel regarding transmission and "shifting gears" than disgrace yourself with an absolute incompetence and quoting your fellowmen from twitter.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

.. tell me that this is not really happening..

http://jyllands-posten.dk/sport/cykling/article4736841.ece

Andy: I deserve my Tour victory

AS = Loser on several counts.

 

[LaFlorecita]

you'd better learn some сycling materiel regarding transmission and "shifting gears" than disgrace yourself with an absolute incompetence and quoting your fellowmen from twitter.

Okay... again I don't understand what you mean to say..

Edit: Nevermind

But what do you mean with quoting fellowmen and that sort of thing?

 

[Havetts]

AS = Loser on several counts.

Except in the records, where he is listed winner.

 

[Parrulo]

you'd better learn some сycling materiel regarding transmission and "shifting gears" than disgrace yourself with an absolute incompetence and quoting your fellowmen from twitter.

your post isn't very clear but you seems to be implying that schlecks incompetence had nothing to due with him dropping his chain.

i hope you don't mind but i am going with perico delgado, sean kelly and stephen roche's opinion that he dropped his chain because he attacked on the big ring at both the front and the back crossing his chain too much and putting it under too much tension, so when he needed to drop back to the small ring at the front because the gear was too heavy for him to continue to push it like he was doing, the chain simply slipped past the small ring due to tension.

that's called incompetence, any other pro would have either used another similar but safer gear ration (small ring at the front and at the back) or simply do it like contador did on etna which is seating on the saddle and easing for a second while shifting down from the big ring to the small ring.