"another interesting piece I found on the UCI and president Pat McQuaid " Thread

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Race Radio said:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ong-still-hangs-over-pat-mcquaid-8555308.html

It is hard to ignore that one of the greatest crisis' the sport has faced happened under the watch of McQuaid and Verburggen.

The popularity of cycling (in ireland or elsewhere) has little to do with Pat and Hein and UCI. It is part of a societal trend, similar to higher environmental awareness, stronger engagement on diet and exercise, personal fitness, etc. The increased popularity of cycle races is driven by better event promotion and media coverage, not by UCI.

When one digs below the veneer of the professional cycling circus as presented superficially, one rapidly discovers the stench that has built under Pat and Hein's leadership. A stench caused by allowing and enabling doping, routine and expanding conflict of interest positions, and lack of collaboration with other sports stakeholders on progressing common agendas. Pat's record is not one of modern day leadership. It is just not the way forward.

It's time for change, and Cycling Ireland has a responsibility and opportunity to contribute to this required change on 12 April. Another vote for Pat is another vote for the continued path we are on towards a pro wrestling style farcical sport. Lessons need to be learnt from the past 15 years, and behaviors need to be changed as a result. This can only happen with a new leadership.
 
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"McQuaid could still be nominated by the Swiss federation - he lives in Switzerland" (i.e. if the Irish fed don't nominate him)

I wasn't aware of this fail-safe position for Pat. Seems completely wrong to me, and hence entirely typical of the UCI's structure.
 
HAHAHAHA!!!! UCI Forbids all licensees

If there was ANY question one of the UCI's efforts is to maintain a worldwide monopoly on making money on cycling events, then this should bury it once and for all.

ALL UCI licensees, not just pros anymore, are forbidden from riding non-uci sanctioned events.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/any-uci-licensee-forbidden-from-unsanctioned-events-says-usa-cycling

Sadly, most licensees will gladly keep spending money at the UCI.

Meanwhile, it's rides like this http://www.bikeride.com/calendar/event.asp?id=24697 that they are trying to kill. Sold out with lots of USAC licensees riding.
 
DirtyWorks said:
If there was ANY question one of the UCI's efforts is to maintain a worldwide monopoly on making money on cycling events, then this should bury it once and for all.

ALL UCI licensees, not just pros anymore, are forbidden from riding non-uci sanctioned events.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/any-uci-licensee-forbidden-from-unsanctioned-events-says-usa-cycling

Sadly, most licensees will gladly keep spending money at the UCI.

Meanwhile, it's rides like this http://www.bikeride.com/calendar/event.asp?id=24697 that they are trying to kill. Sold out with lots of USAC licensees riding.

If the UCI gets away with this, it is all powerful in the realm of cycling. Pity the poor suckers who think that Lance Armstrong was an aberration.
 
MarkvW said:
If the UCI gets away with this, it is all powerful in the realm of cycling. Pity the poor suckers who think that Lance Armstrong was an aberration.

There's nothing stopping them. In the U.S. they've been granted a monopoly. I don't know how much effort the IOC has put into other countries.

No one has the resources or interest to challenge the monopoly.
 
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As mentioned in thread " Mc Quaid Dumped !" , i have emailed a variety of the " Cycling Ireland Executive " , with the request for an "EGM " , thus giving THEIR Membership a voice !

http://www.skippi-cycling.blogspot.com

There , you will find the email contact points , instead of bemoaning the " 1.2.019 rule " , here , ACT to ensure THOSE with an ability to initiate SOLVING THIS PROBLEM , are aware of the depth of Anti Mc Quaid feeling tha exists !

When , WE , the Cycling Fans , get a result HERE , ACTION must be taken to have Paul Kimmage's Lawyers PRESS the Swiss Authorities , to respond to the information presented in November 2012 !

I find it hard to believe that the Swiss Federation would " Nominate " a person , rejected by their Home Country Federation AND Subject to Police Investigation ?

Those that are members of Cycling Clubs should press their " Club Executives " to ACT TODAY !
 
Tinman said:
The popularity of cycling (in ireland or elsewhere) has little to do with Pat and Hein and UCI. It is part of a societal trend, similar to higher environmental awareness, stronger engagement on diet and exercise, personal fitness, etc. The increased popularity of cycle races is driven by better event promotion and media coverage, not by UCI.

When one digs below the veneer of the professional cycling circus as presented superficially, one rapidly discovers the stench that has built under Pat and Hein's leadership. A stench caused by allowing and enabling doping, routine and expanding conflict of interest positions, and lack of collaboration with other sports stakeholders on progressing common agendas. Pat's record is not one of modern day leadership. It is just not the way forward.

It's time for change, and Cycling Ireland has a responsibility and opportunity to contribute to this required change on 12 April. Another vote for Pat is another vote for the continued path we are on towards a pro wrestling style farcical sport. Lessons need to be learnt from the past 15 years, and behaviors need to be changed as a result. This can only happen with a new leadership.

Amen to that!
 
DirtyWorks said:
If there was ANY question one of the UCI's efforts is to maintain a worldwide monopoly on making money on cycling events, then this should bury it once and for all.

ALL UCI licensees, not just pros anymore, are forbidden from riding non-uci sanctioned events.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/any-uci-licensee-forbidden-from-unsanctioned-events-says-usa-cycling

Sadly, most licensees will gladly keep spending money at the UCI.

Meanwhile, it's rides like this http://www.bikeride.com/calendar/event.asp?id=24697 that they are trying to kill. Sold out with lots of USAC licensees riding.

I have been arguing on these pages the riders need a real union and not the pathetic riders association set up by the UCI. Such a union would have to commit to clean riding, support WADA, be transparent, embrace testing and research into better testing methods. There is no down side to a Union doing this.

The upside includes the fact that riders would have clout. They could get away from the serfdom in the sport that motivates a lot of doping. It would help to break down the culture of doping.

They could negotiate things like UCI licensees racing in non sanctioned events as opposed to being dictated to under the present regime. I am not sure what it is going to take from riders to wake up. There needs to be a proactive rebel in the peleton with brains and credibility to push the agenda. Who will step up?
 
RobbieCanuck said:
Amen to that!

The large increase in cycling interest is not from the UCI.

It's from mass participation events and over population of public transport systems.

Tax incentives for ride to work schemes and the rise in the male metrosexual lead to the increase in popularity.

Coverage or races absolutely assisted marketability but that is more the race promoters and less the UCI.

The Gran Fondo and Cyclosportive main cause for the rise in popularity to road cycling.

Not what the UCI... if anything the UCI has slowed the adoption of cycling through their red tape etc. of organised races. Impossible to join a club and race these days.
 
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Pat McQuaid in 2006, "To my mind, the (doping) problem has largely gone away."

Sack, lying, of, ***.
 
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Dazed and Confused said:
since everybody seems to insist voting for Phat again and again, you gotta wonder how many clowns circulate the corridors of cycling feds.

A circus full. Sooner the sport breaks from UCI the better.

Actually most of the sport of cycling has little to do with the UCI and that is fine by me.

All the sportives, grand fondos etc etc that are springing up are non UCI and they hate it. :D
 
Benotti69 said:
A circus full. Sooner the sport breaks from UCI the better.

Actually most of the sport of cycling has little to do with the UCI and that is fine by me.

All the sportives, grand fondos etc etc that are springing up are non UCI and they hate it. :D

The Tour of Ireland has fallen apart and those who partipate in cycling throw their money at Fondos and equipment. Not the UCI.

The UCI are horning in on ther own Fondos to limited success.

Race organizers are milking the day before one the day after Sportives.

Easy money.
 
There is a Carrick click I notice that thinks "cycling needs to move on"

I think behind it all is the pyramid scheme that protects King Kelly and all those that profited by association etc. including bike shops.
 
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Fat Pat

Isn't it strange that the day before Fat Pat's fate is decided by his friends in Irish cycling, that he drops the proposed Rule enfocement with the biggest load of BS ever seen in a press release !!!


Title:
UCI Press release: Strict enforcement of rule 1.2.019 postponed

Date:
11.04.2013

Description: The UCI listened to the feedback from the various groups involved and who feel affected by a strict and immediate enforcement of rule 1.2.019 and its associated sanctions. The UCI has decided to postpone strict enforcement of rule 1.2.019 in 2013 with the expectation that all stakeholders (National Federations, race directors, teams and riders) will discuss and do what is necessary to prepare for the rule’s full enforcement in 2014.


UCI Communication Services
 
orbeas said:
Isn't it strange that the day before Fat Pat's fate is decided by his friends in Irish cycling, that he drops the proposed Rule enfocement with the biggest load of BS ever seen in a press release !!!

IMHO, Shimano/Merida/Giant/Bike industry called and made it clear this was a non-starter.

The part I don't understand is it seems only the U.S. was intent on enforcement. Which, to me, suggests Wiesel liked the idea and was running with it and making up lots of stuff along the way.
 
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Fat Pat

was tried in the uk in the 90's, but failed and has since been forgot about..Vets road races are covered by the LVRC - Time trials by CTT - Age related road races by TLI all of which are non UCI !!!!
 
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Isn’t it strange there are media reports in mid-March about the lack of out of competition testing. Then on April 6 and 11, UCI announces Serebryakov and Kaikov test positive in OOC tests. What better way to scare riders into believing the OOC testing is working than to catch a couple with positives.
 
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The media reports and Serebryakov’s and Kaikov’s tests happened pretty much all on the same day (March 17-18). Because of the negative press about the lax OOC testing, UCI looked at its test results queue for a couple of minor riders to bust and found the Russian riders' red-hot positives. UCI has control over the test processing and in this case decided to go public with the results instead of covering them up.

Or UCI could just be doing its job. Too much time in the clinic……. ;)
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