"another interesting piece I found on the UCI and president Pat McQuaid " Thread

[Rusty Bike]

I get it. If we're lucky the Irish guy will be so drunk he won't manage to accomplish much evil.

Ha ha ha. You know what in a stupid twisted way, its better the president is so incapable he cant do as much damage as a corrupt competent president.

It so ****ed up I cant even comprehend the situation.

I thought their was a chance of some sense a few months ago, not anymore.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

You know what in a stupid twisted way, its better the president is so incapable he cant do as much damage as a corrupt competent president.

I used to think that way too before George W. Bush became President.

 

[Rusty Bike]

I used to think that way too before George W. Bush became President.

A horrible thought just flickered across my mind of Patrick McQuaid being in charge a nuclear weapons. lol. Jesus. "Here Hein, USADA aren't playin ball lets hit Colorado"

Massively off topic. Sorry

 

[spalco]

McQuaid in serious trouble. I have been saying all day that this would not happen. I am delighted I was wrong

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-...pressure-calls-egm-on-pat-mcquaid-nomination/

Wow, possibly big news, and I agree with you, I also didn't think it could happen.

Who has the right to vote in an EGM here? Only the club officials or ordinary members too?
Either way, it'll take a committed grassroots effort to succeed in deposing McQuaid there, it's by no means a done deal imo. Never underestimate the sneakiness of corrupt sports beaurocrats.

 

[BroDeal]

Wow, possibly big news, and I agree with you, I also didn't think it could happen.

Who has the right to vote in an EGM here? Only the club officials or ordinary members too?
Either way, it'll take a committed grassroots effort to succeed in deposing McQuaid there, it's by no means a done deal imo. Never underestimate the sneakiness of corrupt sports beaurocrats.

Don't get too excited. Verbruggen will probably put himself up for election if his stooge does not get nominated.

 

[Irish2009]

Each club depending on how many members it has will be alloted votes. Its not direct proportional representation, for example a club with six members might have 1 vote, a club with 300 members might have 6 votes. Afaik only club reps may attend the meeting and vote either way unless they have a mandate from their club members to vote a certain way. There are a lot of "senior" people who run clubs and do all the donkey work regarding same, these would also be the same people that would remember all the good work that the McQuaids (not Pat alone) have done for Irish cycling and they would be fully aware that having Pat as president is of benifit to domestic cycling and some are aware of the damage re-nominating him might do globally.

However there are also a hugh amount of people in clubs that would be totally unaware of the work the McQuaids have done on a local level and would only assoiciate Pat McQuaid with what they have read in the media over the last few years. So it's not so clear cut as to wheather his nomination will be resinded or put forward.

Either way I hope those who want McQuaid out have a viable alternative, can anyone here name anyone who HAS looked for nomination that would be better than McQuaid.....???

 

[Dazed and Confused]

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Either way I hope those who want McQuaid out have a viable alternative, can anyone here name anyone who HAS looked for nomination that would be better than McQuaid.....???

UCI headed by Phat is not credible. Never will be.
A new leader must remove Hein for the organisation to regain some credibility. That is the task of a new president. Many people can do that. After that, I can't see many doing as poor a job as the current installment.

 

[Race Radio]

Either way I hope those who want McQuaid out have a viable alternative, can anyone here name anyone who HAS looked for nomination that would be better than McQuaid.....???

Cookson

He has wisely left himself out of the discussion as anyone who announces becomes the target of a McQuaid smear campaign. He is playing it smartly, let Pat be exposed then announce your plan

 

[thehog]

Captain Stupid is at it again.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...n-to-put-its-nomination-of-him-to-an-EGM.aspx

It would basically be a vote of no confidence.

Alas I'm sure the Swiss will nominate him.

Long live the king!

 

[thehog]

Captain Stupid is at it again.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...n-to-put-its-nomination-of-him-to-an-EGM.aspx

It would basically be a vote of no confidence.

Alas I'm sure the Swiss will nominate him.

Long live the king!

Thanks Hog.

The article at VeloNews is very good.

From a governance perspective, somebody has to take the rap for it. Unfortunately, it’s an Irishman at the top but there have been too many drugs scandals, too many things going on, too many mistakes made. Somebody has to take the blame. I thought back to Mark Scanlon (Irish junior world road race champion 1999 and former pro). That guy was a phenomenal rider. He was in the class of Boonen, Cancellara, Pozzato, all of those guys. He should still be in cycling. He should be winning the Tour of Flanders. But he didn’t do that. Why didn’t he do that? Because he was forced out by doping. When I think of Irish guys like that it annoys me. I have lost all interest in professional cycling. I don’t even watch it anymore.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013...bers-to-decide-upon-mcquaid-nomination_283828

 

[IndianCyclist]

Wow, possibly big news, and I agree with you, I also didn't think it could happen.

Who has the right to vote in an EGM here? Only the club officials or ordinary members too?
Either way, it'll take a committed grassroots effort to succeed in deposing McQuaid there, it's by no means a done deal imo. Never underestimate the sneakiness of corrupt sports beaurocrats.

I don't think it is going to happen because the business men in the committee stand to lose some of their business if Ireland loses their UCI president. Also McQuaid has the support of the two heroes of Irish cycling- Roche and Kelly. It is difficult for anyone to go against those two except perhaps for Kimmage.

 

[Inquitus]

I don't think it is going to happen because the business men in the committee stand to lose some of their business if Ireland loses their UCI president. Also McQuaid has the support of the two heroes of Irish cycling- Roche and Kelly. It is difficult for anyone to go against those two except perhaps for Kimmage.

The vote will be by delegates from the clubs, the number of votes a club gets depends on the number of members. As far as I can see the grassroots here has mobilised and forced this EGM, and has petitioned their clubs on the matter. Apparently 20+ clubs were mobilised in a few short days to demand an EGM, this clearly reflects the anger at grassroots level. The clubs are simply the voice of their members, and I don't believe they will be allowed to go against the members will.

From the talk I am seeing from members of various clubs in the Leinster area there is certainly a good chance that this may prevent the nomination of Pat McQuaid, as long as the anger and indignation continues up to the time of the EGM, and people continue to mobilise the grassroots into action hopefully justice wil be done.

 

[MarkvW]

The vote will be by delegates from the clubs, the number of votes a club gets depends on the number of members. As far as I can see the grassroots here has mobilised and forced this EGM, and has petitioned their clubs on the matter. Apparently 20+ clubs were mobilised in a few short days to demand an EGM, this clearly reflects the anger at grassroots level. The clubs are simply the voice of their members, and I don't believe they will be allowed to go against the members will.

From the talk I am seeing from members of various clubs in the Leinster area there is certainly a good chance that this may prevent the nomination of Pat McQuaid, as long as the anger and indignation continues up to the time of the EGM, and people continue to mobilise the grassroots into action hopefully justice wil be done.

Your perspective, from a person 'on the ground,' is certainly a lot different from McQuaid's. McQuaid's spinning this as the correction of a legal irregularity. McBruggen is looking a little bit like Baghdad Bob on this issue.

 

[Inquitus]

Your perspective, from a person 'on the ground,' is certainly a lot different from McQuaid's. McQuaid's spinning this as the correction of a legal irregularity. McBruggen is looking a little bit like Baghdad Bob on this issue.

Just to clarify, the original nomination has been rescinded due to a procedural irregularity at the meeting. Instead of merely reconvening a new meeting and passing the motion without procedural errors, due to the grassroots campaign cycling Ireland has called an EGM to decide the matter, where arguments will be heard and delegates from the Irish clubs will have the opportunity to turn up and vote via a simple majority system on the matter.

McQuaid and Verbruggen can spin it all they want, but McQuaid's nomination is certainly now in doubt.

 

[PosterBill]

Pat McQauid is a monster.

I am amazed at the great lengths this man will go to for self preservation. This guy will go seek the nomination of the Swiss if he is denied Ireland. How #####%% deluded is this? I think it only underscores that his corruption is possibly much larger then what is currently known. No telling where these tenacles spread to. He is hanging on by his fingernails, scratching and clawing as he's being taken out of office. What is so important that he must cling on to? ...hidden business interests? backdoor deals? God only knows what the new President will uncover assuming he's no lackey for Hein and Pat. Even the worst dictators realize at some point it's time to give it up and they've usually got genocides to cover up.

 

[MarkvW]

Pat McQauid is a monster.

I am amazed at the great lengths this man will go to for self preservation. This guy will go seek the nomination of the Swiss if he is denied Ireland. How #####%% deluded is this? I think it only underscores that his corruption is possibly much larger then what is currently known. No telling where these tenacles spread to. He is hanging on by his fingernails, scratching and clawing as he's being taken out of office. What is so important that he must cling on to? ...hidden business interests? backdoor deals? God only knows what the new President will uncover assuming he's no lackey for Hein and Pat. Even the worst dictators realize at some point it's time to give it up and they've usually got genocides to cover up.

Pat McQuaid is a barnacle.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Pat Lies Some More

http://www.3wiresports.com/2013/05/13/ucis-belated-preemptive-strike/

“Many of the allegations leveled at the UCI have been comprehensively answered and debunked,”

And, he says, UCI is discussing with WADA “a process that will allow a full examination of doping in the peloton in the past so that we can learn all the lessons that need to be [learned.]“

Heaven forbid anything be done to doping going forward.

As a reminder of where Pat's loyalties lie, “Another thing that annoys me is that Landis and Hamilton are being made out to be heroes. They are as far from heroes as night and day. They are not heroes, they are scumbags. All they have done is damage the sport.”

Election is in the bag!

 

[Tinman]

Captain Stupid is at it again.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...n-to-put-its-nomination-of-him-to-an-EGM.aspx

Alas I'm sure the Swiss will nominate him.

The Swiss may go where they money is but they are not stupid. Being out on a limb is not them. If they smell Pat is a goner they will think twice. What it needs in the next month is for a decent alternative to stand forward.

 

[veganrob]

The Swiss may go where they money is but they are not stupid. Being out on a limb is not them. If they smell Pat is a goner they will think twice. What it needs in the next month is for a decent alternative to stand forward.

What they may think is that having a known, emasculated crook, Phat, is better than the unknown alternative. But yes, I hope someone does step forward soon.

 

[DirtyWorks]

What it needs in the next month is for a decent alternative to stand forward.

You don't understand how the system works. Like the bio-passport, the election process is rigged for a pre-determined outcome. The preferred outcome is the one Hein likes.

It would take a miracle for Pat not to be elected, then ANOTHER miracle for someone who values a legitimate anti-doping effort to be elected. Shortly thereafter, any goals regarding a legitimate anti-doping effort would be destroyed.

 

[Tinman]

then ANOTHER miracle for someone who values a legitimate anti-doping effort to be elected.

... You can't believe in miracles?...

But yes I do understand, but I also keep hoping. It's all I've got...

 

[D-Queued]

http://www.3wiresports.com/2013/05/13/ucis-belated-preemptive-strike/

“Many of the allegations leveled at the UCI have been comprehensively answered and debunked,”

And, he says, UCI is discussing with WADA “a process that will allow a full examination of doping in the peloton in the past so that we can learn all the lessons that need to be [learned.]“

Heaven forbid anything be done to doping going forward.

As a reminder of where Pat's loyalties lie, “Another thing that annoys me is that Landis and Hamilton are being made out to be heroes. They are as far from heroes as night and day. They are not heroes, they are scumbags. All they have done is damage the sport.”

Election is in the bag!

Notable, of course, by his omission in that statement is Armstrong.

One can only reach the conclusion, given the far greater extent of Armstrong's example, that Armstrong in Pat's view is a hero.

Fool.

Dave.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

You don't understand how the system works. Like the bio-passport, the election process is rigged for a pre-determined outcome. The preferred outcome is the one Hein likes.

Thats a false statement - if it was rigged then Pat would not need to go on a PR offensive.

It would take a miracle for Pat not to be elected, then ANOTHER miracle for someone who values a legitimate anti-doping effort to be elected. Shortly thereafter, any goals regarding a legitimate anti-doping effort would be destroyed.

This is a bit more to the point.

Presently, there is only one public candidate - if he gets nominated and no-one runs against him, he wins - but they are now 2 big 'ifs'.

As with all corrupting powers they have the rails greased - as an example, what is Pat up to these days? Quietly on the campaign trail, this week he is in Morocco - visiting their Fed President.
However, for the first time the easy part of the process of getting a nomination has proved difficult. And this in turn means that more others may decide to challenge him as Pres.

 

[gooner]

Cycling Ireland release a statement giving the reasons for backing McQuaid.

Board Statement re Mr Pat McQuaid Nomination for UCI Presidency

At its meeting of 12th of April 2013, the Board of Cycling Ireland decided to nominate Mr Pat McQuaid to stand for the UCI presidency. Legal advice received subsequent to this decision has resulted in the board convening an EGM on the nomination for the 15th of June, 2013.

Following requests from members, the board is happy to outline the rationale for supporting the nomination of Mr Pat McQuaid at its 12th of April meeting. This support was based primarily on the following points:


•Cycling Ireland nominated Mr. Pat McQuaid to stand as a candidate; it was felt he should be judged on his record by the delegates at the UCI Congress in September. Not to let him stand would be to act as ‘judge and jury’ and deprive other cycling nations an opportunity to debate and deliberate on the selection of the UCI President.



Initiatives such as:

o Globalisation of cycling;

o Gender equality of Olympic cycling program;

o Introduction of BMX discipline to the Olympic program;

o Adoption and promotion of Paracycling programs.



Anti-Doping Initiatives introduced during his terms:

o Biological Passport System;

o Whereabouts system;

o No Needles Policy;

o True Champion or Cheat Program;

o Introduction of confidential hotline.



Undertakings with regard to governance changes to be brought to the UCI Management Committee as per Cycling Ireland’s press statement of 12th of April (see below).

His contributions to the development of Irish Cycling recognised with an Honorary Life Membership and his continued assistance and support to our Federation.

It was felt based on the above, and after prolonged deliberation of the available facts, that he was deserving of Cycling Ireland’s nomination.

Cycling Ireland Board

16th May 2013

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-...backing-pat-mcquaids-uci-election-nomination/

 

[DirtyWorks]

Cycling Ireland release a statement giving the reasons for backing McQuaid.
http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-...backing-pat-mcquaids-uci-election-nomination/

The obligatory Star Wars reference fits nicely: "These are not the droids you are looking for."