"another interesting piece I found on the UCI and president Pat McQuaid " Thread

[DirtyWorks]

Yep, he definitely is, he's on the way out and he knows it. Just trolling in a desperate attempt keep himself looking relevant and to try to save himself. Cookson may not be the solution to cycling's problems, but it'll be nice to finally be done with McQuaid.

Don't count him out until he's gone. If that happens.

 

[Benotti69]

Don't count him out until he's gone. If that happens.

Yes I agree. I wont believe he is gone till it happens.

 

[sniper]

Yes I agree. I wont believe he is gone till it happens.

mcquaid is not gonna leave without a bang.
this guy's got uci headquarters boobytrapped.
expect fireworks in aigle if cookson wins.

 

[zigmeister]

Don't count him out until he's gone. If that happens.

Yes I agree. I wont believe he is gone till it happens.

mcquaid is not gonna leave without a bang.
this guy's got uci headquarters boobytrapped.
expect fireworks in aigle if cookson wins.

Couldn't have said it any better. Don't count your chickens....

Won't believe it until it happens.

I can't imagine if he gets re-elected how that will effect the future of cycling...obviously it will be bad...but how so, one can only wonder.

 

[gooner]

McQuaid, UCI president from 2005 to 2013, told Press Association Sport: “I haven’t made my mind up yet. I need to be convinced that this commission is going to look into all of the aspects of the reasons why doping was prevalent.

“That is who was actually responsible, not just the UCI, but also people like WADA and USADA.

“As I see in the terms of reference, there’s no inquiry into what their responsibilities may or may not have been in relation to doping and the fight against doping.

“I don’t want to see a witch hunt into me and Hein Verbruggen only, when others have been responsible (for anti-doping activities) as well and should be asked to account for themselves as well.”

“At the end of the day, we now know Lance Armstrong never tested positive. Never tested positive. That’s a fact.

“There is no proof anywhere, either in the USADA reasoned decision or anywhere else, that Lance Armstrong tested positive. If Lance Armstrong never tested positive, what is there to cover up?”

Verbruggen has similar concerns to McQuaid and, in an email exchange with Press Association Sport, insisted there was no need for a cover-up.

“There is simply nothing to hide as some 25 previous and current UCI anti-doping staff members can witness,” the Dutchman wrote.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/mcquaid-wary-of-witch-hunt-623990.html

 

[Andynonomous]

It's amazing that these two guys (McQuaid Verbruggen) act like they were innocent bystanders who had no power to catch people like Armstrong (who everybody knew was doping, including outsiders like me). These guys were insiders who had to suspect what was going on. Of course they were complicit in the doping. How else did Armstrong have advanced knowledge of the tests?

I hope they talk to Contador and ask him what deal McQuaid offered, before it was leaked that he had failed a drug test.

The tennis officials convey the same sentiment that McQuaid, and Verbruggen state. They must suspect that Serena, Nadal, Murray, Djokovic, Stosur, Ferrer are all doping, yet they do nothing to target test these individuals. Tennis officials act like diplomats that are caught between the doping players who want weaker testing, and the clean players who want tougher testing. Unfortunately there are more dopers than clean players, so the dopers win out.

 

[blackcat]

It's amazing that these two guys (McQuaid Verbruggen) act like they were innocent bystanders who had no power to catch people like Armstrong (who everybody knew was doping, including outsiders like me). These guys were insiders who had to suspect what was going on. Of course they were complicit in the doping. How else did Armstrong have advanced knowledge of the tests?

I hope they talk to Contador and ask him what deal McQuaid offered, before it was leaked that he had failed a drug test.

The tennis officials convey the same sentiment that McQuaid, and Verbruggen state. They must suspect that Serena, Nadal, Murray, Djokovic, Stosur, Ferrer are all doping, yet they do nothing to target test these individuals. Tennis officials act like diplomats that are caught between the doping players who want weaker testing, and the clean players who want tougher testing. Unfortunately there are more dopers than clean players, so the dopers win out.

the premise implicit in your post is they were supposed to catch him, and wanted to catch him.

the power structure that exists is meant to entrench power, not tip it over. Armstrong and Nike had the power. It is absolutely amazing that this story ever came out. A dozen sport journos at the NYTimes had this story if the editor signed off on it. Back in 2000 they had the story if they wanted to go there. They (reporters)did not, because they could not get it up with the editors. It was not a story anyone wished to read.

Peope wished to watch Leno and Katie Couric tell the myth. It affirmed their understanding of the exceptionalism status they are told from preschool. And it is not US, they are the cypher in this instance, however it is every place will have their story to tell the common rubes.

 

[blackcat]

mcquaid is not gonna leave without a bang.
this guy's got uci headquarters boobytrapped.
expect fireworks in aigle if cookson wins.

like to see him bring down Sky and Cookson, but a problem is his son works in the industry, so this is like a ball and chain around his ankle, he cannot pull the nuclear code out.

 

[DirtyWorks]

like to see him bring down Sky and Cookson, but a problem is his son works in the industry, so this is like a ball and chain around his ankle, he cannot pull the nuclear code out.

It's worse than that. It's like Armstrong's situation, the minute he starts throwing people under the bus, his own reputation goes into steep decline.

Verbruggen and McQuaid are untouchable. No crimes, no higher authority to report. The money must have been pretty good under the table.

 

[Race Radio]

In Juliet Macur's new book she writes about how lance's team negotiated a deal with the UCI. They were supposed to discredit the USADA report, say it was so biased it was not worth addressing. Lance thought this would allow Lance to still lie, and make money off, his fans. He could point to the UCI, the head of the sport, and say he had their support.

When the report came out it was so overwhelming McQuaid could not go through with the deal.

 

[D-Queued]

In Juliet Macur's new book she writes about how lance's team negotiated a deal with the UCI. They were supposed to discredit the USADA report, say it was so biased it was not worth addressing. Lance thought this would allow Lance to still lie, and make money off, his fans. He could point to the UCI, the head of the sport, and say he had their support.

When the report came out it was so overwhelming McQuaid could not go through with the deal.

I like!

Dave.

 

[ebandit]

usada

will we ever get to the truth about how fat pat and co tried to wrestle control
of the reasoned decision from usada?

by not taking part in CIRC is this demonstration that fat pat has more to hide than share?....................he must be confident that secrets will stay hidden

Mark L

 

[Zam_Olyas]

UCI to Act on Anti-doping Audit Recommendations

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENe...s/UCI/UCI8/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMDQ&LangId=1

The audit included a review of:

Test distribution planning
Training and accreditation of doping control personnel
Doping control procedures
Results management
Data security, access to information and information flow controls

Brian Cookson, President of the UCI said: “I would like to thank iNADO for conducting this important audit and for its recommendations to help enhance the effectiveness of the UCI Anti-Doping programme. I was pleased that the audit found that the Biological Passport programme is outstanding and that Results Management is excellent. The UCI will now make the necessary changes to policies, structures and procedures in order to further improve the programme and ensure compliance with the 2015 WADA code.

errr Sniper, ben , dear wiggo over to you folks

 

[D-Queued]

UCI to Act on Anti-doping Audit Recommendations

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENe...s/UCI/UCI8/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMDQ&LangId=1

...The UCI will now make the necessary changes to policies, structures and procedures in order to further improve the programme and ensure compliance with the 2015 WADA code.

errr Sniper, ben , dear wiggo over to you folks

Compliance with WADA?

That is a breath of fresh air.

Dave.

 

[Benotti69]

UCI to Act on Anti-doping Audit Recommendations

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENe...s/UCI/UCI8/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMDQ&LangId=1

errr Sniper, ben , dear wiggo over to you folks

I was pleased that the audit found that the Biological Passport programme is outstanding and that Results Management is excellent.

I wonder does Ashenden agree

If anti doping worked speeds would be down by a much bigger margin. Skinny riders who are the best climbers in the world wouldn''t be able to TT better than the best TTers at the end of 3weeks of a GT.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

UCI to Act on Anti-doping Audit Recommendations

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENe...s/UCI/UCI8/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMDQ&LangId=1

errr Sniper, ben , dear wiggo over to you folks

Dear Wiggo mgt regret to inform you he is currently under heavy sedation after suffering an apoplectic fit upon reading a UCI press release regarding their anti-doping efforts and the biological passport this morning.

His only coherent comment was, "SNAFU".

 

[sniper]

UCI to Act on Anti-doping Audit Recommendations

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENe...s/UCI/UCI8/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMDQ&LangId=1

interesting detail: in the press-release they call this the INADO audit.
if you open the terms of reference, you see it was in fact the INADO-UCI audit.
could it be that the people were put together by the uci?
are we being held for fools again?
where are the likes of ashenden/schenk, etc?
why aren't they being involved?

whatever independent commission is founded next, if it contains any ADA members i'll take the liberty to dismiss the results beforehand.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

interesting detail: in the press-release they call this the INADO audit.
if you open the terms of reference, you see it was in fact the INADO-UCI audit.
could it be that the people were put together by the uci?
are we being held for fools again?
where are the likes of ashenden/schenk, etc?
why aren't they being involved?

whatever independent commission is founded next, if it contains any ADA members i'll take the liberty to dismiss the results beforehand.

There's no conflict of interest in these audit team members, is there?

The audit team included Anne Cappelen, the director of systems and results management at Anti-Doping Norway, and Marjorit Nurmi, the quality manager at the Finnish Anti-Doping Agency.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014...to-anti-doping-program-following-audit_318830

 

[sniper]

There's no conflict of interest in these audit team members, is there?

the audit members are ada members. i don't trust adas.
british ada fired their best anti-doping agent in 2004
german ada just blocked the publication of a revealing anti-doping report
spanish ada did everything in their power to prevent operacion puerto data from leaking.
nor do i really have much faith in wada at the moment.
edit: admittedly, i don't really know what this audit was all about, but them praising the passport means very little to me.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Apologies. It was sarcasm. Anyone involved directly in the anti-doping effort has a conflict of interest in auditing that process.

Marjorit Nurmi, the quality manager at the Finnish Anti-Doping Agency

Most recent anti-doping image I have seen involving Finland:

2002 Winter Olympics

 

[sniper]

Apologies. It was sarcasm.

ha, i wasn't sure.

Anyone involved directly in the anti-doping effort has a conflict of interest in auditing that process.

fully agree. well said.

i guess this doesn't bode well for cookson's true desire to clean house.
this is just more pretending.

 

[Benotti69]

ha, i wasn't sure.

fully agree. well said.

i guess this doesn't bode well for cookson's true desire to clean house.
this is just more pretending.

Or as they might call it 'better management'.

 

[Morbius]

The recommendations purely seem to apply to the processes around anti-doping and with relatively technical improvements, not with the overall effectiveness of anti-doping.
IMO The only really substantive recommendation said

The system of referring cases to National Federations for prosecution should be reviewed especially in Athlete Biological Passport cases where the risk of jeapordizing the time and work carried out is considerable"

 

[Race Radio]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/wielersport/22564007/___Slachtoffer_Lance_Armstrong___.html

McQuaid says he was a "Victim of lance Armstrong"

Oh Pat, so silly. Did he forget how he did everything possible to obstruct the USADA case? Pat is not a victim, he is a co-conspirator.

 

[Benotti69]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/wielersport/22564007/___Slachtoffer_Lance_Armstrong___.html

McQuaid says he was a "Victim of lance Armstrong"

Oh Pat, so silly. Did he forget how he did everything possible to obstruct the USADA case? Pat is not a victim, he is a co-conspirator.

Still hoping some federation will give him a job! No chance!