Armstrong - 5 Types of Forum Posters

[laziali]

My post was a response to poster who said „There is NO actual evidence to support an argument that he did not dope“. I can only repeat that only evidence what counts is positive test and conession. And these favor LA.

A part from cortico, he has not tested positive. L'Équipe article can generate clicks and forum discussions, but thats it, it does not count as positive test.

Looks like were up to:

Type 434 - The Illogicals

 

[VeloCity]

I only repeat that only evidence what counts is positive test and conession. And these favor LA.

By that standard, there's zero evidence that "counts" that Pantani was a doper.

 

[cotterpin]

pantani doped?

 

[laziali]

pantani doped?

He He Cotter Apparently some other posters just found out

 

[Cerberus]

By that standard, there's zero evidence that "counts" that Pantani was a doper.

Or against Ulrich, or against Rasmussen for that matter.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

As I said on another thread, you find me another pro cyclist who has done as many low things as Armstong and I will change my opinion on him. Hinault was the only one who comes close and he was not very popular with fans or riders...

Hinault, or Fignon?

Hinault had a blunt, assertive persona, and would gladly tell people how he felt to their face, but he had a lot of supporters. A lot of fans loved him, and riders such as Andy Hampsten even called him a great leader.

Fignon was someone who on the bike or during the course of a race was very caustic at times to the press, other riders and fans. Infamously spitting at cameras and such. Off the bike and away from racing however, by most all counts a quite friendly and easy to like man. The only cyclist in the peloton to contact Lemond when Greg was in the hospital with his gunshot wound for example.

One may say Jeanne Longo was very unpopular at times with fans, press, even teammates and a real cutthroat, win at all costs type of person.

As far as doing "low things" I think that is up for debate - to me Flandis may have touched the absolute bottom.

 

[pmcg76]

Hinault, or Fignon?

Hinault had a blunt, assertive persona, and would gladly tell people how he felt to their face, but he had a lot of supporters. A lot of fans loved him, and riders such as Andy Hampsten even called him a great leader.

Fignon was someone who on the bike or during the course of a race was very caustic at times to the press, other riders and fans. Infamously spitting at cameras and such. Off the bike and away from racing however, by most all counts a quite friendly and easy to like man. The only cyclist in the peloton to contact Lemond when Greg was in the hospital with his gunshot wound for example.

One may say Jeanne Longo was very unpopular at times with fans, press, even teammates and a real cutthroat, win at all costs type of person.

As far as doing "low things" I think that is up for debate - to me Flandis may have touched the absolute bottom.

Hinault I mentioned myself.

I think Fignon is mostly remembered for his behaviour at the 89 Tour, most of his disputes seemed to be with the press. I think he got on fine with fellow riders.

Yeah, Longo didnt seem very popular with anyone, seemed always to be in conflict with somebody.

Landis, of course but he was already backed into a corner and behaved accordingly. No excuse for some of the things he and his crew done.

For me, the Simeoni incident was just about the lowest thing I have seen in procycling especially as it related to a problem that went to the heart of cycling and it had initially nothing to do with Lance.

I also dont like my national Tour been reduced to 3 days due to huge appearence fees being paid to 1 rider who then drops out whilst allegedly there to promote cancer awareness.

Other riders might have been assholes but for me, the incidents I listed are far worse than anything other riders done and coming from the most famous cyclist ever.

 

[reyan12]

i am very confused about the testicular cancer that made LA "famous" and how it affected his brains.He's very disgusting and he's a complete a$$HoLe last year which made me conclude that his testicles were located near his brains or the other way around.

 

[RTMcFadden]

i am very confused about the testicular cancer that made LA "famous" and how it affected his brains.He's very disgusting and he's a complete a$$HoLe last year which made me conclude that his testicles were located near his brains or the other way around.

Are you suggest that he was treated by a Proctoneurologist?

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

For me, the Simeoni incident was just about the lowest thing I have seen in procycling especially as it related to a problem that went to the heart of cycling and it had initially nothing to do with Lance.

That, I can definitely see your point on.

 

[BroDeal]

I think Fignon is mostly remembered for his behaviour at the 89 Tour, most of his disputes seemed to be with the press. I think he got on fine with fellow riders.

Fignon's arrogance extended to his fellow riders. Lots of riders hated him. He was basically a racist when it came to riders from Columbia. He mellowed a lot after he retired.

 

[pmcg76]

Fignon's arrogance extended to his fellow riders. Lots of riders hated him. He was basically a racist when it came to riders from Columbia. He mellowed a lot after he retired.

I think everyone was racist towards the Colombians in the 80s, they got blamed for all the crashes due to their poor bike handling skills.

The acerbic Robert Millar decscribed Fabio Parra as the the worst bike handler:

"Parra as in Para-chute, if there was a crash, you could be sure he would be at the bottom of it"

The narrow minded Euro peloton didnt take well to outsiders, especially South Americans who they seen as inferior.

 

[Escarabajo]

Or against Ulrich, or against Rasmussen for that matter.

There is a positive test for Rassmussen. So he does not count.

 

[BroDeal]

I think everyone was racist towards the Colombians in the 80s, they got blamed for all the crashes due to their poor bike handling skills.

The acerbic Robert Millar decscribed Fabio Parra as the the worst bike handler:

"Parra as in Para-chute, if there was a crash, you could be sure he would be at the bottom of it"

The narrow minded Euro peloton didnt take well to outsiders, especially South Americans who they seen as inferior.

Fignon went a little beyond blaming them for crashes. He told the press that the Columbians were from an inferior race, and he would make comments about their dark skin.

 

[Hugh Januss]

There is a positive test for Rassmussen. So he does not count.

A positive drug test? Really? Is that something new? Last I had heard he had recieved a 2 year suspension for lying about his whereabouts, but as far as I know he hasn't ever failed a test.

 

[Cerberus]

There is a positive test for Rassmussen. So he does not count.

It wasn't positive according to the official Wada standard so Rasmussen counts just as much as Armstrong. It's all just a French conspiracy. Really!

P.S. And Hugh, it's nothing new. He tested positive for Dynepo during the 2007 Tour, but it wasn't an official positive.

 

[Escarabajo]

It wasn't positive according to the official Wada standard so Rasmussen counts just as much as Armstrong. It's all just a French conspiracy. Really!

P.S. And Hugh, it's nothing new. He tested positive for Dynepo during the 2007 Tour, but it wasn't an official positive.

I wonder how they would have handled the problem if it wasn't for his whereabouts lies. Now if he had stayed in the race, He would have won the Tour, so it makes you wonder about that Dynepo positive. It would have been like a Landis II type of problem.

 

[Oldbiker]

I just want the guy to freaking retire. All he is doing now is riding for marketing purposes because he has a lot of elliptical trainers to sell. He doped, he is an a$$hole, I will not buy anything with his little yellow band, or "Livestrong," or anything associated with the man. Now I just wish he would go away. I am sick of seeing him, hearing about him, and discussing him.

oh really, you are so sick of seeing him etc., yet you manage to do 12 posts per day for a year and most of them rant about LA... get real, don't be such a fraud, go ride your bike or read a book. Put LA's name on ignore!!

 

[flicker]

oh really, you are so sick of seeing him etc., yet you manage to do 12 posts per day for a year and most of them rant about LA... get real, don't be such a fraud, go ride your bike or read a book. Put LA's name on ignore!!

Why do people not ride their bikes and give attention to "LANCE" I will never know. I imagine Lance and CC get a chuckle out of the haters.

 

[Race Radio]

Why do people not ride their bikes and give attention to "LANCE" I will never know. I imagine Lance and CC get a chuckle out of the haters.

13 hours, 11,000 feet in the last 3 days....how about you?

The return of Armstrong has been the best thing for those who question the myth. His behavior over the last years has allowed the rest of the world can see what petulant children he and The Hog are.

 

[Escarabajo]

Idiotic Thought

Why do people believe that because certain posters dislike Armstrong or don't like him, that poster don't ride their bike enough or at all???? What is the correlation????

I consider this the most idiotic, ignorant and stupid thought of this Forum.

There, I vented myself.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Why do people believe that because certain posters dislike Armstrong or don't like him, that poster don't ride their bike enough or at all???? What is the correlation????

I consider this the most idiotic, ignorant and stupid thought of this Forum.

There, I vented myself.

The explanation lies in their inability to put two and two together and come up with anything other than three.

 

[flicker]

13 hours, 11,000 feet in the last 3 days....how about you?

The return of Armstrong has been the best thing for those who question the myth. His behavior over the last years has allowed the rest of the world can see what petulant children he and The Hog are.

I am meditating on my display bicycle what it would feel like to ride one kilometer downhill.

Seriously though, way to go RR. Tear it up on the climbs. Good on you.

 

[frenchfry]

13 hours, 11,000 feet in the last 3 days....how about you?

The return of Armstrong has been the best thing for those who question the myth. His behavior over the last years has allowed the rest of the world can see what petulant children he and The Hog are.

This was what I thought could be the silver lining when he announced his return.

To do 11,000 feet I would have to climb the same damn hill about 70 times. Either that or move.

 

[Sam Allen]

Hang around for a while it only gets better. It's LCD gold with the biggest collection of drama queens every assembled on a sporting site. One long time poster just recently committed seppuku and his tormentors showed up to the funeral mocking and belittling him. There is a Venusian solution for these girls but they just can't wrap their head around it. You know what they say about scorned women. I'm in total agreement with you on one point - it is fascinating to watch.

Long time lurker, just thought I'd pop my head above the parapet to ask why this waste of space can't be banned. I don't mind posters like Flicker, at least he/she tries to add something to an issue. But SpeedWay appears out of nowhere to reel off the same old spiel, always on Lance Armstrong threads, adding absolutely nothing to the argument. A classic example of speaking a lot, but saying nothing.