Armstrong Accuses LeMond of Doping!

[La Pandera]

I'm afraid Lance is losing it.

...along with Dr. err, Captain Phil.

 

[Cobblestones]

Lance is definitely loosing it. Maybe LeMond should sue him for this remark? Or TREK should, for damaging the LeMond brand?

ETA: and let's just ignore the little, sad troll.

 

[cyclestationgiuseppe]

Who cares if Armstrong doped? Eddy Merckx tested positive 3 times and yet everyone still considers him a hero.

Who was second in most Tours Armstrong won? Jan Ullrich. Did he dope? Yeah, no doubt about it. So even if Armstrong doped in all his Tours(I know for sure he doped in 1999) he still won against other dopers.

Honestly, LeMond is jealous because Armstrong has 7 Tour victories while he only has 3. That's the only reason why LeMond is doing this. Why does he believe everything Floyd Landis says by the way? That guy is one big fat pathetic lie. He even let his Team Manager call LeMond and he pretended he was his uncle who sexually abused him(Only Floyd knew LeMond's secret)

Why are they all of a sudden good friends?

I'm not a Lance Armstrong fan by the way, Armstrong is an arrogant and egocentric ***. And it's soo funny to see him fail and crash in this year's Tour.

So in your opinion then it is okay to dope as long as everyone else is doing it right?

This will be LA's first line of defense. Gee Mr. Novitzsky, everyone else was doing it so I did to.

How totally pathetic!

 

[Benotti69]

Who cares if Armstrong doped? Eddy Merckx tested positive 3 times and yet everyone still considers him a hero.

to who on here. Merckx aint a hero of mine. The real difference between pre EPO and after EPO is that pre a guy like LA would never win a GT, after EPO the guy won 7. Merckx was always gonna win GTs, not because of his doping.

Who was second in most Tours Armstrong won? Jan Ullrich. Did he dope? Yeah, no doubt about it. So even if Armstrong doped in all his Tours(I know for sure he doped in 1999) he still won against other dopers.

Aint the point and it doesn't justify it.

Honestly, LeMond is jealous because Armstrong has 7 Tour victories while he only has 3. That's the only reason why LeMond is doing this. Why does he believe everything Floyd Landis says by the way? That guy is one big fat pathetic lie. He even let his Team Manager call LeMond and he pretended he was his uncle who sexually abused him(Only Floyd knew LeMond's secret)

LeMond aint jealous, he's disgusted by Pharmastrong and when he found out after the 3rd (ISTBC) TdF victory he approached Uniballer about it and basically Uniballer threatened him, accused him of doping aswell, lots of nice things that prove what a nice guy LA is.

Why are they all of a sudden good friends?

they aren't good friends. LeMond helped out Landis, because Landis apologised for everything he did to LeMond.

I'm not a Lance Armstrong fan by the way, Armstrong is an arrogant and egocentric ***.

it is possible to not like LA and realise not everybody doped. Life is intricate and so is cycling. get reading if you want to understand it better

 

[Hugh Januss]

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Well, well, brand new poster joins up and immediately seems to know who is who around here. If I couple that with the 28 (and counting-rapidly) posts, the blind defense of LA, and endless cicular arguments I can come to only one conclusion.
Welcome (?!) back BPC.

 

[El Pistolero]

So in your opinion then it is okay to dope as long as everyone else is doing it right?

This will be LA's first line of defense. Gee Mr. Novitzsky, everyone else was doing it so I did to.

How totally pathetic!

I'm not saying it's ok to dope, I'm just saying that I'm past caring of doped riders in cycling.

And what's going to happen when Lance gets convicted of doping? Are they going to strip away his victories from him? What are they going to do then? Give the victories to the likes of Jan Ullrich?

Might as well strip away all the victories of Eddy Merckx as well. The guy was clearly doped.

 

[saganftw]

And what's going to happen when Lance gets convicted of doping? Are they going to strip away his victories from him? What are they going to do then? Give the victories to the likes of Jan Ullrich?

ahahaaaa that made me laugh,i ve never thought what will happen after LAgate,interesting point

 

[Benotti69]

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who exactly are people like us? Fanboys trying to take down LeMond with Uniballer

let's see some evidence for Carlos Sastre.

Let's see some evidence for Lemond.

 

[cyclestationgiuseppe]

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But, you can use this excuse as an ignorant member of this forum.
Again, it is this sort of apologist approach that is what is wrong with cycling.
As long as there is Omerta, it will continue. Bring down the big fish that (most) cyclists want to be and they will maybe think twice before injecting anything.

Ban all dopers for life.

 

[Benotti69]

Coca Cola?
El Pistoliero?
Captain Phil?

all profess to hate LA yet all trying to subtly attach doping to LeMond.


TROLLING.

 

[red_flanders]

Wishful thinking. They were all on steroids in those days. Read the Fignon book.

FYI - I think Lance is a stinking piece of ****. I'm coming at this from a 'realist' angle, not an 'I love Lance' angle.

I'll ask again, do you have any evidence Lemond doped? I'm sorry, but Fignon saying "everyone did it" doesn't cut it.

 

[Benotti69]

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if you read this site you would have come across the latest interview published in which LeMond gave his Lawyer's name to Landis and LeMond states they are practically doing it for free as a favour to LeMond.

Now how about you go read up before you post or are you gonna keep trolling.

 

[cyclestationgiuseppe]

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Are you f***ing serious? The bio-passport is a passport on how to dope without getting caught. Something the UCI dreamed up to make the sport appear (to the completely ignorant) that no is doping and everyone is clean.


Oh yes, and as a fan for almost 30 years, I do want to see it. I want to see it real bad!

 

[saganftw]

LeMond gave his Lawyer's name to Landis and LeMond states they are practically doing it for free as a favour to LeMond.

i believe LA was doping,i even believe Lemond is luke skywalker of this story but lawyers working for free?

 

[LKing25]

LeMond would be setting himself up for a huge fall if he was a doper by making anti-doping statements so my belief is that he was clean his entire career and feels betrayed by Armstrong and Cycling in general. Dopers tend to be evasive when questioned about doping so LeMond goes against the grain in that sense.

 

[cyclestationgiuseppe]

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Thanks for clarifying my beliefs for me.........Look a UFO!!

You really do not have a clue. I will give you a shiny star for your spelling though.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Hey giuseppe, save yourself the trouble.

Captain Phil is the same guy who's been banned 50 times here. He's just trolling and you're wasting your time.

 

[saganftw]

LeMond would be setting himself up for a huge fall if he was a doper by making anti-doping statements so my belief is that he was clean his entire career

danger!!!!

you can say the same about every doper,even LA

 

[cyclestationgiuseppe]

Hey giuseppe, save yourself the trouble.

Captain Phil is the same guy who's been banned 50 times here. He's just trolling and you're wasting your time.

Thanks MM. I just cannot help myself sometimes.
Cheers!

 

[cyclestationgiuseppe]

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Isn't it your bedtime? I think I hear your mommy calling you.

 

[goober]

This is hilarious! Please read the story where Greg tells everyone that Lance is in big trouble. Lance's reply is that Greg doped when he won the '89 Tour (with the aero bars by 8 seconds over Fignon)!!!

http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/07/news/greg-lemond-says-proble-could-end-lance-armstrong_129823

When Lance was a neo-pro he used to say the stupidest things. Now he is returning to his old ways. Can't he figure out that if he says that the only way that Greg could win was by doping (and this was before EPO, remember!) then it stands to reason that the only way that Lance could win was also by doping. What a dope...

Again, it will be interesting to see if LeMond has to testify and if they ask him if he ever used banned substances while actively participating in racing without a TUE. And again I will say I am not talking over the counter drugs. No one I know of has hard evidence on LeMond so it will be his word against anyone who accuses (from what I know). In my opinion LeMond needs to be part of this 'burning down'...

 

[ricara]

That's interesting. I thought Lemond would jump at the chance to testify against Armstrong. Maybe his lawyers are telling him not to sound too keen for PR purposes.

Captain Troll, uh, I mean "Phil". Greg has already said that he is eager to testify before the grand jury. The sentence you took out of the article was probably just a bad translation from the French newspaper in which it originally appeared.

 

[Big GMaC]

You're saying LeMond is lying when he states that the biopassport has cleaned up the sport to a large degree? Or he just believe in UFOs? Which is it?

Report. Ignore. Win

 

[Krebs cycle]

When Lance was a neo-pro he used to say the stupidest things. Now he is returning to his old ways. Can't he figure out that if he says that the only way that Greg could win was by doping (and this was before EPO, remember!) then it stands to reason that the only way that Lance could win was also by doping. What a dope...

It's possible LeMond could have used EPO in 1989 and 1990.

Also, testosterone stimulates EPO production in the kidney. So even if you only took testosterone on a regular basis in the pre-comp phase then you could ride a tour with artificially elevated red cell volume.

In the 1980s, Adamson, Joseph W. Eschbach, Joan C. Egrie, Michael R. Downing and Jeffrey K. Browne conducted a clinical trial at the Northwest Kidney Centers for a synthetic form of the hormone, Epogen produced by Amgen. The trial was successful, and the results were published in the New England Journal of Medicine in January 1987.[7]

In 1989, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the hormone, called Epogen,

 

[Anonymous]

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