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Armstrong comments on Contador feud; "It was deliberate" - link in text.

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Earth Tribe said:
Was this about the Jon Stewart inteview? I'm not surprised AC hadn't heard about it - it was only the day before and wasn't a particularly serious interview. I'm surprised it was even quoted.

I'm not sure how you know about what AC does when he's training, but some might say the better athlete is the one that is capable of doing more than one thing at the same time. Michael Schumacher would talk to his team on the radio more than any other driver during a race - not a lot of other drivers could do that and still keep up their intensity.

You mean like the way Lance kept a close eye on Frank Schleck and didn't let him bridge up to his brother and Contador in July.

I have no interest in F1, but is there evidence that Schumacher spoke to his team on the radio more than any other driver or is it just hearsay? in the same way that Lance is the most tested athlete of all time?
 

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hfer07 said:
Is the show even broadcasted & translated in Spain at all?[/IMG]

Exactly. I'm surprised the press even bothered to quote what was said in this particular interview. It was clear he didn't even want to dwell on Contador.
 

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BYOP88 said:
.I have no interest in F1, but is there evidence that Schumacher spoke to his team on the radio more than any other driver or is it just hearsay? in the same way that Lance is the most tested athlete of all time?

Two different issues. Martin Brundel, former team mate and now ITV commentator, would often mention this. The people who used to work with Schumacher also mention it. It's not some big controversial claim that anybody is denying. But lets don't get into that on this thread - I just used it as an example. The point is, being able to do more than one thing is often a great skill. The fact that Contador has to be totally isolated or he can not train properly doesn't make him better or more commited rider than Armstrong.
 
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I'm comparing the ability to do two things at once and not compromise what you are doing, yes.

I think the Hog was making an all together different point unrelated to Armstrong's comments. This was about JB's comments that AC has let fame go
to his head; that his egomania, in part, was the reason he parted ways with AC. Unfortunately for JB, reality doesn't support his contention and makes him look both foolish and childish. Frankly it is clear that this is just another poor attempt of building up the drama of Contador vs Armstrong for the TdF. AC isn't going along with it.
 
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Earth Tribe said:
Was this about the Jon Stewart inteview? I'm not surprised AC hadn't heard about it - it was only the day before and wasn't a particularly serious interview. I'm surprised it was even quoted.

I'm not sure how you know about what AC does when he's training, but some might say the better athlete is the one that is capable of doing more than one thing at the same time. Michael Schumacher would talk to his team on the radio more than any other driver during a race - not a lot of other drivers could do that and still keep up their intensity.

Are you saying that LA's twittering ability makes him a better rider? Really?
 
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richwagmn said:
Are you saying that LA's twittering ability makes him a better rider? Really?

Earth Tribe is a troll. He has been banned many times under other usernames, Arbiter/Ban Pro Cycling/British Pro Cycling/Sprocket1.

He writes outrageously stupid things just to get others to give him the attention he craves and derail the thread. He has also claimed that Armstrong's sudden improvement late in life was due to the development of his frontal lobe.
 

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richwagmn said:
Are you saying that LA's twittering ability makes him a better rider? Really?

Not the twittering itself, but the ability to be able to process more information than others without effecting the ability to focus on your training is a talent. Top sports people often have this. It's a fairly unremarkable statement. It's the same with a soldier at war, etc.
 

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Race Radio said:
He has also claimed that Armstrong's sudden improvement late in life was due to the development of his frontal lobe.

Don't hate on the frontal lobe. The frontal lobe, which governs maturity and decision making, doesn't fully mature until the mid 20s. That's why young people are more prone to making bad decisions. For Armstrong, who admits to being quite an immature and angry young rider, this could have more effect on him than most. Put that together with the mental process he went through in cancer and one could imagine it changing the way he operates and improving his focus. It's certainly something to put in the mix.
 
Earth Tribe said:
Don't hate on the frontal lobe. The frontal lobe, which governs maturity and decision making, doesn't fully mature until the mid 20s. That's why young people are more prone to making bad decisions. For Armstrong, who admits to being quite an immature and angry young rider, this could have more effect on him than most. Put that together with the mental process he went through in cancer and one could imagine it changing the way he operates and improving his focus. It's certainly something to put in the mix.

Yes, it's a little-known fact that Lance transfused with Klingon blood, leading to his extraterrestrial frontal lobe development.
 
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Earth Tribe said:
Don't hate on the frontal lobe. The frontal lobe, which governs maturity and decision making, doesn't fully mature until the mid 20s. That's why young people are more prone to making bad decisions. For Armstrong, who admits to being quite an immature and angry young rider, this could have more effect on him than most. Put that together with the mental process he went through in cancer and one could imagine it changing the way he operates and improving his focus. It's certainly something to put in the mix.

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The frontal lobe is an area in the brain of mammals. It is located at the front of each cerebral hemisphere and positioned anterior to (in front of) the parietal lobes and above and anterior to the temporal lobes. It is separated from the parietal lobe by the primary motor cortex, which controls voluntary movements of specific body parts associated with the precentral gyrus. In humans, the frontal lobe reaches full maturity around age 25, marking the cognitive maturity associated with adulthood. Arthur Toga, UCLA, found increased myelin in the frontal lobe white matter of young adults compared to that of teens. A typical onset of schizophrenia in early adult years correlates with poorly myelinated and thus inefficient connections between cells in the fore-brain. The frontal lobe contains most of the dopamine-sensitive neurons in the cerebral cortex. The dopamine system is associated with reward, attention, long-term memory, planning, and drive. Dopamine tends to limit and select...

http://www.freebase.com/view/en/frontal_lobe
 
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Earth Tribe said:
Yeah he's already made the leap that champion riders make at one point in their career, so there's a good chance that he won't get much better next year. I don't think he's going to have it as easy as this year. It won't look as easy.

Well, he won't have to deal with the politics of LA/JB this year which should make it easier. I"ve got to think all the extra climbing will suit him just fine too.

I'm not sure why you seem to believe he's plateaued already.
 

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How Do Shrinks Measure Maturity?
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Psychologists can also use games or simulation environments to test impulse control. One game, called the Iowa gambling task, asks teenagers to choose a card from one of four decks, over and over again. Each card has a different value, positive or negative, and each deck has a different mix of cards. Younger kids tend to be less cautious, going for decks from which they've received big, one-time rewards, even if the other decks provide better odds overall. In videogames that simulate driving, teens tend to speed up when they see a yellow light, and they crash more often than adults.

Neurological imaging research shows that the frontal lobes of adolescents are less developed, in certain ways, than those of adults. The frontal lobes are thought to be involved with decision-making and planning for the future; indeed, the first use of the Iowa gambling task showed that patients with frontal lobe damage had particular deficiencies in these areas.
 

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red_flanders said:
So this would be the case for...oh, anyone. So it's unremarkable with regard to any individual, including Armstrong. So bringing it up is...

...where's that Picard poster again???

Yes you're right that it does happen to everyone, and that's often why athletes peak later than their physical peak, in my view. The point about LA is this process could be more pronounced due to his character and the combination of the cancer experience.
 
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franciep10 said:
Because he has a dysfunctional frontal lobe:)

Oh, I get it. That must be what Phil Liggett was referring to on the last TDF show of the year when all but called Contador stupid. ;)

Can't wait to see LA think his way to a TDF win next year. I think I can, I think I can...
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
Amen. I pride myself in my uncanny ability to drink and post at the same time. The beer hat helps, I admit.

All you need is your frontal lobe to develop and the next 7 Tours are all yours.
 

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Race Radio said:
All you need is your frontal lobe to develop and the next 7 Tours are all yours.

Um, didn't you all pile on me in the other thread for incorrectly interpreting your stance on the funding issue? I never said it was all down to this issue. It's certainly an interesting theory that it played apart in his change though.
 
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and the pattern continues.

Make a *** claim
derail a thread defending *** claim with more *** claims
claim persecution if anyone questions *** claim
Get banned again
get a new IP address and start trolling again

The ignore list has a new member.