Armstrong Lies

[Race Radio]

Thanks for proving my point.

It was not another "Armstrong Lie".

Lance never said the TdU appearance fee was going to go charity.

Nice deflection, but that is not what I wrote.

The Armstrong spin was that he was not getting paid to ride, That he did not need the money, that he was coming back to raise awareness. I think we can all agree that this was not the truth.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

“Everybody in cycling has a team and takes a team salary,” he says. “I am essentially racing for free. No salary. No bonus. Nothing on the line.… This one’s on the house. And you know what? At the end of the day, I don’t need money.… Not only will I be fine, my kids will be fine, my grandkids will be fine".

Lance Armstrong interview Vanity Fair, 2008.

 

[Anonymous]

“Everybody in cycling has a team and takes a team salary,” he says. “I am essentially racing for free. No salary. No bonus. Nothing on the line.… This one’s on the house. And you know what? At the end of the day, I don’t need money.… Not only will I be fine, my kids will be fine, my grandkids will be fine".

Lance Armstrong interview Vanity Fair, 2008.

Pow! Right in the kisser! Thanks Doc!

 

[Polish]

“I am essentially racing for free. No salary. No bonus. Nothing on the lineVanity Fair, 2008.

No lie - he DID race essentially for free - when compared to the $100million+ salaries from the top athletes in other pro sports. That was my point to Cozy....one million bucks big wup.

And where did Lance say "no appearance fees".


Now if he would have said "I am absolutely racing for free now and forever even in 2009 or 2010" that would be different. You have to remember, Lance started racing Pro during the Clinton Administration.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

Damn those key words....

 

[Hugh Januss]

No lie - he DID race essentially for free - when compared to the $100million+ salaries from the top athletes in other pro sports. That was my point to Cozy....one million bucks big wup.

And where did Lance say "no appearance fees".


Now if he would have said "I am absolutely racing for free now and forever even in 2009 or 2010" that would be different. You have to remember, Lance started racing Pro during the Clinton Administration.

If you've got the money and would like to hire me, I would settle for 1 million for 1 week over 100 million for 6 years. Probably do almost anything for that kind of money too.
I think the statement that he doesn't need money certainly implies that he is not asking for any, "appearance fees" as well as no salary.

 

[flicker]

One of the naughty children who is a hacker has posted under my name. Forum posters beware there is a malevolent hacker amoungst us.

 

[Anonymous]

No lie - he DID race essentially for free - when compared to the $100million+ salaries from the top athletes in other pro sports. That was my point to Cozy....one million bucks big wup.

And where did Lance say "no appearance fees".


Now if he would have said "I am absolutely racing for free now and forever even in 2009 or 2010" that would be different. You have to remember, Lance started racing Pro during the Clinton Administration.

Sounds to me as if LA has learned how to parse words from the former President. Depends on what the definition of "getting paid" or "racing for free" is.

 

[Race Radio]

And where did Lance say "no appearance fees".

From the Vanity Fair interview

"Nothing on the line.… This one’s on the house"
Lance Armstrong

 

[Dr. Maserati]

No lie - he DID race essentially for free - when compared to the $100million+ salaries from the top athletes in other pro sports. That was my point to Cozy....one million bucks big wup.

1 million? Try at least 3 million. 1 million for Australia, 2 million for the Giro - whatever his start fee foe the Tour of Ireland was enough to get the race shortened from a 5 day to a 3 day.

Name all the cyclists that are earning +3 million a year? (Try naming a cyclist who has eclipsed $100 million throughout their career - I can think of one!)

And where did Lance say "no appearance fees".

"this one's on the house"...... or "I don't need money".....

Now if he would have said "I am absolutely racing for free now and forever even in 2009 or 2010" that would be different. You have to remember, Lance started racing Pro during the Clinton Administration.

That was Lance with Pres. Clinton?

 

[Race Radio]

one million bucks big wup.
.

For 7 days work? Not bad.

 

[Polish]

Geez, I guess I will have to read that Vanity Fair article...

read read read move lips read read lips moving read read GASP...

Hey, wait a minute...Lance is talking about Team Salary/Money.
IE Astana. The is no Lance in that Team lol.

But he insists this is different, since he will get no salary for the 2009 season (although his speaking fees and endorsement deals clearly won’t suffer). “Everybody in cycling has a team and takes a team salary,” he says. “I am essentially racing for free. No salary. No bonus. Nothing on the line.…

And his 2009 TdU appearance was not racing lol. Barely could keep up.
His appearance was a Joint Economic Stimulus Injection for both Australia and the US. Win-Win. Speak to the press, pat a wallaby on the noggiin, endorse the wonderful race that is the Santos Tour Down Under!

Maybe this year Lance will actually RACE the event.

 

[Race Radio]

"I never had sex with that women"

"It depends on what the meaning of "Is" is."

 

[Anonymous]

In Lance's Bizarro World history lesson in Telegraaf, he accused Contador of lies, and the Spanish press, in particular Marca, of, well, lots of bad stuff. I just stumbled across a response from a couple of days ago by the writer from Marca. It's in Spanish, and Google does a poor job of translation, but I posted it to twitter so hopefully someone will make the effort.

http://marcawas5.recoletos.es/blogs/Controlador?opcion=9&codPost=5087

 

[unsheath]

old news! As said previously, its just an attempt to rewrite history under his terms. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[Anonymous]

I hate how LA blatently changes his perception of past events and no-one ever calls him on it. Worse still, how many people are suckered in by his revisionism. It's not like it's particularly subtle, it's not hard to put two quotes next to each other and see the contrast. It's about time someone put all of them in a book called "History according to Lance" or something so he (or his loyal subjects) would have to face up to some of them.

Either that or he actually does go into politics so that others will do a complete "job" on his past. Although by then he will have retired again and it will be too late, as many will be past caring.

 

[bianchigirl]

As a propagandist, he (with the help of his band of tame journos) would rival Goebbels

 

[Anonymous]

This is fairly amusing:

http://cyclocosm.com/2010/01/who-was-the-captain-of-the-peloton/

 

[Escarabajo]

This is fairly amusing:

http://cyclocosm.com/2010/01/who-was-the-captain-of-the-peloton/

To be honest, I didn't have a problem with what he did in that stage. Is my opinion.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Lance dominated the peloton physically and psychologically for years in the Tour. There's little doubt about that. Most of the riders were either physically or psychologically strong, but not both. He had both attributes.

Now, we see him faced with someone like Contador, who has shown himself superior to Armstrong in both regards and the former boss doesn't like it one bit. However, before Contador smashed the myth at the Tour, Armstrong was still regarded as the boss.

 

[Anonymous]

I think many of us agree that the way he spins and lies and cynically takes advantage of people is abhorrent. Instead of us just sitting around and complaining, while watching him get way with yet more lies and making millions off the back of it - why don't we do something about it?

We are not connected to the industry, we're not journo's who can be threatened with a media blackout. And there is enough knowlegde and expertise on this forum to make something work. I've read some of your posts on drugs etc. Some are astounding. Ok, some are downright stupid but most are good, intelligent, well reasoned posts. If there was a website outlining his lies, with evidence to support them so he couldn't sue, he would have to face up to them. It could be called something snappy like, how about

LieStrong?

Would anyone be up for something like that?

 

[MacRoadie]

I think many of us agree that the way he spins and lies and cynically takes advantage of people is abhorrent. Instead of us just sitting around and complaining, while watching him get way with yet more lies and making millions off the back of it - why don't we do something about it?

We are not connected to the industry, we're not journo's who can be threatened with a media blackout. And there is enough knowlegde and expertise on this forum to make something work. I've read some of your posts on drugs etc. Some are astounding. Ok, some are downright stupid but most are good, intelligent, well reasoned posts. If there was a website outlining his lies, with evidence to support them so he couldn't sue, he would have to face up to them. It could be called something snappy like, how about

LieStrong?

Would anyone be up for something like that?

How about: "Trust but Verify: This Time We Mean It"

 

[ravens]

" I have never tested positive. "

 

[buckwheat]

Cozy, one million USD to Lance is not the same as one million bucks to you or me lol. He is on a WHOLE different level.

Lance is a big business with many employees and expenses. It cost money to publish blood values btw. He has coaches, pr people, a bike shop, accountants/tax peolple, etc etc etc. One million bucks gets sucked up pretty fast.

BTW, do you have a link to back up the myth that Lance said the appearance fee was going to charity? And if he did say that and then changed his mind - big deal, we all know Lance is a ****

He solved that one, didn't he!

 

[Race Radio]

Give the huge volume of lies (and Trolls) streaming out of the Armstrong camp these days perhaps it is time to revive this thread.

The latest lie is Armstrong pretending he does not know anything about the investigation into the transfusion equipment found in the trash of his team at the Tour last year.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-rejects-landis-allegations

Question on CN: "What about the French prosecutors who are looking into the medical waste from last years Tour?
LA: That's, I have no idea what the story is there. I've not been asked about that. I've not been informed about that

.

How is it that Armstrong and the Hog have not spoken about the Hog and Gallopin being interviewed just a few weeks before

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/french-investigate-caisse-depargne-over-tour-syringes

"Investigators of the French Central Office against Environmental Damage and Public Health (OCLAESP), who was appointed by the Paris court prosecutors to examine the affair, questioned the two RadioShack directors separately, as Bruyneel was heard in Paris in early May and Gallopin in April."

So we are supposed to believe that a team owner does not know about two of his employee's being interviewed by the Police? Does he really think that we believe that he and the Hog do not talk every day?

Armstrong must have a pretty low opinion of his groupies intelligence level if hs thinks they will swallow anything he says.