Bosco10 said:Ol' Sally was used by Lance, perhaps knowingly, as a wild-west saloon prostitute.
Hmmm.
I thought the first rule in that line of work was not to fall for the johns.
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Bosco10 said:Ol' Sally was used by Lance, perhaps knowingly, as a wild-west saloon prostitute.
Bannockburn said:The greatest bit of irony in all this is that this his house of cards is thanks in large part to his compulsion to surround himself with nothing but yes-men. Now that the house is caving in...the yes-men are the last thing he needs yet most likely the only thing he has left.
Velodude said:Sally can't let go. No time to keep up with Lance news except for:
Assume: Supposes to be the case without proof.
To Sally, journalist. An affidavit is a sworn statement of facts and is evidence in a court of law.
DirtyWorks said:BBzzzzt! Wrong. Wonderboy's podiums have evaporated, the sporting myth shattered. I could go on with some other nonsense you posted, but your case doesn't get any better the more you write.
Wonderboy can't stay away, so there's more embarrassment coming for him. Maybe you'll be one of the dozen or so people standing in line at a bike show for an autographed 8x10 while hundreds steer clear of the stain a decade from now?
Dave, I'd argue another factor to Wiesel's system is the IOC silo. Their sports are set up similarly. Money talks, rules are there to lend an air of legitimacy, but IOC blessed sports administration is pretty much non-transparent.
Glenn_Wilson said:This forum is not a great indicator with regards to Lance and his fans.
Glenn_Wilson said:People do this all the time on both sides of any opinion.
Sally has quite a bit of time and effort invested with Lance so it will be difficult for her to draw a conclusion.
Benotti69 said:I beg to differ. It is a great indicator. All his fnss who have come on here to defend wonderboy have shown themselves to be incredibly stupid and shallow.
Glenn_Wilson said:This forum is not a great indicator with regards to Lance and his fans.
Race Radio said:http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/11...trong-among-least-influential-people-of-2012/
Jerry Sandusky’s Lawyer, Lance Armstrong Among Least Influential People Of 2012
Glenn_Wilson said:Not at all sure what you are saying will turn out to be true. Sure it is bad now but just how bad is it? The test will be to see if people still follow him in any way or if he is ignored. I have a hard time believing that the fans that followed him through all these years will ALL jump ship. Time will tell.
This forum is not a great indicator with regards to Lance and his fans.
Fortyninefourteen said:Her cred has taken a massive hit that may hinder future opportunities in journalism. For sure, the zero objectivity in her writings regarding Lance has come home to roost. Poor Sally.....
Page Mill Masochist said:But, Glenn, what is LA's platform? He's retired from pro cycling, banned from sanctioned triathlons, sacked from Livestrong, without sponsors or many speeches, and a punchline in popular culture.
Glenn_Wilson said:Well yeah those are all good points. I just think that there will still be people who follow him and it will not just be "a dozen or so" people standing in a autograph line.
Contrary to what we talk about here you can still find people who have some weird faith in this guy. It is hard for me to explain and I could come up with some examples of a few guys here at my office. These are not cycling fans and some were not even Lance fans. Yet they have a retort to the USADA bannination and subsequent stripping of the TDF podiums.
So if there are still people coming up with excusses for him then it would not take long before he is back in the mix. How does he get there? I have no idea but I would not rule it out.
There is obsesion on the subject coming from many directions. I still find myself coming on here to see what is being said about him by the prolific posters here.
The genuine information that is shared here is great to know, but I am not a fish hack here parusing and trying to catch some inside info on the cheap,,,,, so the only thing I do with the information is read it for my own enjoyment.
Dave says up thread that people are still being paid to post here. I have a very hard time believing that. Maybe before? Now? Sounds farfetched.
frenchfry said:Humans are a strange species and have the capacity to have some pretty weird attitudes. I can understand why many people could care less about Armstrong, but it is harder to understand why they would still worship him (and worship isn't too strong a word).
frenchfry said:You make some good points here Glenn. Humans are a strange species and have the capacity to have some pretty weird attitudes. I can understand why many people could care less about Armstrong, but it is harder to understand why they would still worship him (and worship isn't too strong a word).
Maybe nobody is being paid to post here (anymore?) but I don't doubt that Armstrong and his paid thugs are still attempting to manipulate public opinion in various ways including planting comments. Admittedly it is difficult to differentiate between paid hacks and brainless worshippers.
D-Queued said:You may be right about the historical construction, but it is only through assessing behavior that the diagnosis can be adequately assessed.
I do take some personal pride in how frequently the term is bandied about with respect to Armstrong, however, and am flattered when you describe this as a "much favored designation".
There was a time, not too long ago, when the inference or suggestion of it would get you an automatic ban on most sites.
Thus, the description was first introduced as a broad suggestion... five years ago. Then, the proposition was ever so slowly ramped up such that descriptions were provided with increasing frequency three years ago.
Sometimes you have to use a lot of line to land the fish.
Dave.
Glenn_Wilson said:Well yeah those are all good points. I just think that there will still be people who follow him and it will not just be "a dozen or so" people standing in a autograph line.
Contrary to what we talk about here you can still find people who have some weird faith in this guy. It is hard for me to explain and I could come up with some examples of a few guys here at my office. These are not cycling fans and some were not even Lance fans. Yet they have a retort to the USADA bannination and subsequent stripping of the TDF podiums.
So if there are still people coming up with excusses for him then it would not take long before he is back in the mix. How does he get there? I have no idea but I would not rule it out.
There is obsesion on the subject coming from many directions. I still find myself coming on here to see what is being said about him by the prolific posters here.
The genuine information that is shared here is great to know, but I am not a fish hack here parusing and trying to catch some inside info on the cheap,,,,, so the only thing I do with the information is read it for my own enjoyment.
Dave says up thread that people are still being paid to post here. I have a very hard time believing that. Maybe before? Now? Sounds farfetched.
Velodude said:Glen, your office happens to be in Houston, Tx.
Any national survey conducted on LA would certainly discount or eliminate home state results.
But I agree to an extent that LA will continue to have worshippers.
It is uniquely ingrained in US culture for the need to have national heroes. LA continuously beat the best in the world in a showplace annual international event in a sport that is on the fringe in the US.
That is why the final fall back position justifying LA superior prowess (everyone was doping) is palatable to the non cycling US citizen who believes the US dominate in all fields.
Page Mill Masochist said:I'm shocked Washington Post still employs her. Maybe not for long.
Fortyninefourteen said:Personally, from the first cortisone positive he was highly suspicious.
Glenn_Wilson said:Well yeah those are all good points. I just think that there will still be people who follow him and it will not just be "a dozen or so" people standing in a autograph line.
Glenn_Wilson said:So if there are still people coming up with excusses for him then it would not take long before he is back in the mix. How does he get there? I have no idea but I would not rule it out.
Glenn_Wilson said:...
Dave says up thread that people are still being paid to post here. I have a very hard time believing that. Maybe before? Now? Sounds farfetched.