- Apr 9, 2009
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krebs303 said:And Paul Sherwin!
BroDeal said:Bad mouthing the financial backers of the team you are riding for? Using Armstrong's past behavior as to how he treats people when they are no longer any use to him, I think we can safely say that relations between the kazakhs and Bruyneel/Armstrong have completely broken down.
Test Team Too said:I'm no conspiracy theorist (usually), but does anyone else see the hand of Vinoukorov moving behind the scenes in regards to the Astana $$$ troubles.
BikeCentric said:Seems to me Armstrong's not doing himself any favors by badmouthing them. The Kazakhs hold the ProTour license. They have him by the ball!
ridley said:Man, I love this forum !!!
Everyone is quick to jump on LA nad JB here - but let's look at some facts here. The riders HAVE NOT BEEN PAID !!!!
So, all of you that have comments on who is badmouthing who and who is at fault, how many of you have been employed and not received any salary/cpmpensation dfor a while ???
I bet you all would either end up whining and DEMAND salary, or, quit and look for another job to get paid.
Here, where it is a group of guys riding bikes for a living, it is ok not to get paid and let's jump on the guy that has enough money to support himself and make him the nasty -
Wll, that is my $0.02 - because that is all I get paid to write this !!
Seems to me Armstrong's not doing himself any favors by badmouthing them. The Kazakhs hold the ProTour license. They have him by the ball!
Alpe d'Huez said:LOL!
But really, no one has that many card here, except that the UCI loves Lance, and he's helped them financially in the past, so they are likely to give him any benefit of the doubt in the future.
I still think they're going to go under. It's only a matter of time between May 31st and July to see just how many temporary sponsors Lance can come up with, before he puts up for the rest of the team to pay them through July, so he can ride the Tour and have a shot at winning.
The "Astana" team that Vino and Kashi ride for next year will not be the same we're seeing, at all. Similar subordinate riders, and a Continental team, riding in races in Asia, and that's it. LA, JB, Levi, AC, Chris, Popo, Klodi, Zubeldia, they will all be elsewhere.