Astana Licence to be withdrawn?

[Taxus4a]

Santi Perez was a doper, Landa and Cobo no, at least the last Cobo, the Cobo than won la Vuelta.
To some people that have no idea is beter to dont answer...
Maybe the time will talk. It was like that about the dark era. so it could be like that for the future, but I dont know what more is possible to do to see how are things today.

 

[Tonton]

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Santi Perez was a doper, Landa and Cobo no, at least the last Cobo, the Cobo than won la Vuelta.
To some people that have no idea is beter to dont answer...
Maybe the time will talk. It was like that about the dark era. so it could be like that for the future, but I dont know what more is possible to do to see how are things today.

Usually, when time talks, it's bad news...

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Obvious troll is obvious, but I do have to give him credit on his longevity.

 

[infeXio]

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Obvious troll is obvious, but I do have to give him credit on his longevity.

He's quite persistent in that regard, aye!

 

[observer]

Re: Re:

Santi Perez was a doper, Landa and Cobo no, at least the last Cobo, the Cobo than won la Vuelta.
To some people that have no idea is beter to dont answer...
Maybe the time will talk. It was like that about the dark era. so it could be like that for the future, but I dont know what more is possible to do to see how are things today.

Usually, when time talks, it's bad news...

Well, when the time talks, I'll be back to listen. Until then we obviously have no evidence.

 

[SeriousSam]

So Taxus is now arguing that Lance was clean before it was officially proved beyond even unreasonable doubt that he was not.

 

[motty89]

It's the well known Clenbuterol in Steak thought experiment, where Only after the positive test does the rider settle in to a state as a doper. Before then he was both.

 

[58teeth]

Holy Aru on this final climb! Someone found their legs a week too late.

 

[the sceptic]

Aru rises from the dead! lol.. could it be any more obvious?

 

[S2Sturges]

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Aru rises from the dead! lol.. could it be any more obvious?

Well, it is a Italian race and gotta do a win for pride, who's gonna say anything at this point, if he goes totally alien tomorrow, something has to pop... dodgy as....

 

[Benotti69]

wonder is Tinkov wishing he had some spare pocket change to convince UCI to ban Astana before July....I also kind of get the impression Astana are gonna have the Gendarmes breathing down their neck all July.

 

[infeXio]

I reckon he's going to get dropped on the more steep Finestre tomorrow, though. He seems to struggle on the very steep climbs opposed to the more moderate ones.

 

[Fernandez]

What a shame its being Astana in this giro. I just cant believe what im watching from them. Aru was struggling badly yesterday, and today was pantani. Same with landa. As i say, this is becoming embarrising.

 

[Fernandez]

What a shame its being Astana in this giro. I just cant believe what im watching from them. Aru was struggling badly yesterday, and today was pantani. Same with landa. As i say, this is becoming embarrising.

 

[staubsauger]

Yeah. Because Astana waited with the final preparation , until Aru was finally beaten. Makes sense! Great strategy !

 

[hrotha]

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Yeah. Because Astana waited with the final preparation , until Aru was finally beaten. Makes sense! Great strategy !

Alternatively: they were saving a blood bag because they didn't plan on challenging Contador, who had too large of a lead, and only put the bag back on the table when it looked like Aru might even lose the podium if he didn't improve for these last two mountain stages.

 

[Von Mises]

Aru was clean today - effort on his face tells the story.
Hesjedal also clean, Hesjedal is actually always clean - just look on his face and body language.
Uran was clean today (effort on his face). But couple of days ago when he lost 10 minutes, he was doped to gills - looked too calm,
Kruijswijk - definetly dirty. Compare to Aru, Aru facial grimaces, breathing heavily, mouth open. But Kruijswijk, very calm, no effort.

 

[maltiv]

Hesjedal: "The field and the level is incredible here. Hats off to Aru and Astana, they’re unreal, riding all day like that. I’m just happy to be up there in the front".

So even a former US-Postal rider thinks their performance is unreal, now that's saying something.

 

[58teeth]

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Yeah. Because Astana waited with the final preparation , until Aru was finally beaten. Makes sense! Great strategy !

Alternatively: they were saving a blood bag because they didn't plan on challenging Contador, who had too large of a lead, and only put the bag back on the table when it looked like Aru might even lose the podium if he didn't improve for these last two mountain stages.

Very good observation! Never thought of that. Vino must be really insecure!

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

It is probably more likely the less steep climbs payed a big factor in how good Aru looked than any doping boost at this stage of the race.

 

[Noverca]

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Aru was clean today - effort on his face tells the story.
Hesjedal also clean, Hesjedal is actually always clean - just look on his face and body language.
Uran was clean today (effort on his face). But couple of days ago when he lost 10 minutes, he was doped to gills - looked too calm,
Kruijswijk - definetly dirty. Compare to Aru, Aru facial grimaces, breathing heavily, mouth open. But Kruijswijk, very calm, no effort.

So Uran was doped to gills when he lost so many minutes to people who were according to you clean (Aru's face has been like this the whole Giro)? Someone's face doesn't tell the whole story.

 

[Fernandez]

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It is probably more likely the less steep climbs payed a big factor in how good Aru looked than any doping boost at this stage of the race.

Haha, good joke mate.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

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Aru was clean today - effort on his face tells the story.
Hesjedal also clean, Hesjedal is actually always clean - just look on his face and body language.
Uran was clean today (effort on his face). But couple of days ago when he lost 10 minutes, he was doped to gills - looked too calm,
Kruijswijk - definetly dirty. Compare to Aru, Aru facial grimaces, breathing heavily, mouth open. But Kruijswijk, very calm, no effort.

In that respect, Voekler is always clean, right, and always struggling, especially when the cameras are on him.

Good grief.

 

[Von Mises]

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Aru was clean today - effort on his face tells the story.
Hesjedal also clean, Hesjedal is actually always clean - just look on his face and body language.
Uran was clean today (effort on his face). But couple of days ago when he lost 10 minutes, he was doped to gills - looked too calm,
Kruijswijk - definetly dirty. Compare to Aru, Aru facial grimaces, breathing heavily, mouth open. But Kruijswijk, very calm, no effort.

In that respect, Voekler is always clean, right, and always struggling, especially when the cameras are on him.

Good grief.

Agree. Voekler is clean.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

As clean as his knicks after a wet Paris-Roubaix.