Astana Licence to be withdrawn?

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Colle delle Finestre, Aru has 6 team mates, Alberto and almost anyone else, none... Aru to go alien again, just watch...
Blood bags all around with the muesli... Italian wins a Italian race, right..?
 
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Riek s said:
S2Sturges said:
Colle delle Finestre, Aru has 6 team mates, Alberto and almost anyone else, none... Aru to go alien again, just watch...
Blood bags all around with the muesli... Italian wins a Italian race, right..?

Not Aru.. but landa on the other hand...


5 Astana riders in the top fifteen or so, I think ....? clean everyone of them.....
 
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TheGreenMonkey said:
Astana can inject dope but they cannot inject brains.


Like LeMond said in the post race interview, Astana raced like club riders, coulda won overall today if they played it straight instead of arsing around
 
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Von Mises said:
Aru was clean today - effort on his face tells the story.
Hesjedal also clean, Hesjedal is actually always clean - just look on his face and body language.
Uran was clean today (effort on his face). But couple of days ago when he lost 10 minutes, he was doped to gills - looked too calm,
Kruijswijk - definetly dirty. Compare to Aru, Aru facial grimaces, breathing heavily, mouth open. But Kruijswijk, very calm, no effort.

In the past we've had "Bitter Beer Face" and let's not forget the "O" Face but both are now superseded by the "clean face" - love it!
 
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Von Mises said:
Dear Wiggo said:
Von Mises said:
Aru was clean today - effort on his face tells the story.
Hesjedal also clean, Hesjedal is actually always clean - just look on his face and body language.
Uran was clean today (effort on his face). But couple of days ago when he lost 10 minutes, he was doped to gills - looked too calm,
Kruijswijk - definetly dirty. Compare to Aru, Aru facial grimaces, breathing heavily, mouth open. But Kruijswijk, very calm, no effort.

In that respect, Voekler is always clean, right, and always struggling, especially when the cameras are on him.

Good grief.
Agree. Voekler is clean.
He made effort face at the 2011 tour, and took 4th GC when he climbed like a mountain goat. You expect us to believe he was clean because it looked like he was taking a crap the entire race? You are undeniably naive...
 
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WildspokeJoe said:
Von Mises said:
Aru was clean today - effort on his face tells the story.
Hesjedal also clean, Hesjedal is actually always clean - just look on his face and body language.
Uran was clean today (effort on his face). But couple of days ago when he lost 10 minutes, he was doped to gills - looked too calm,
Kruijswijk - definetly dirty. Compare to Aru, Aru facial grimaces, breathing heavily, mouth open. But Kruijswijk, very calm, no effort.

In the past we've had "Bitter Beer Face" and let's not forget the "O" Face but both are now superseded by the "clean face" - love it!
Aru Effort Face = Clean!

Shut down the clinic, the debate is over.
 
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This Giro has been hilarious in the fact that a short while ago - Team Astana was almost kicked out of the sport.

Now we are done with the Giro and they have won 5 stages, the team competition, team points competition, best young rider and have 2 of the 3 podium spots. (Oh, and their best rider didn't even compete)

If this isn't the Biggest FU, I don't know what is.
 
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WildspokeJoe said:
This Giro has been hilarious in the fact that a short while ago - Team Astana was almost kicked out of the sport.

Now we are done with the Giro and they have won 5 stages, the team competition, team points competition, best young rider and have 2 of the 3 podium spots. (Oh, and their best rider didn't even compete)

If this isn't the Biggest FU, I don't know what is.
To be fair, this was their 'B' team competing against other 'B' teams. (Tinkoff's 'A' squad)
 
After this Giro, anyone who thinks the "biopassport" works needs to have their head examined.

Cycling is as dirty as it has ever been. Astana putting two guys on the podium, winning stage after stage = Vino and Kash from years back = Ricco and Piepoli at Saunier.

Just a huge FU to the entire cycling world.
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
After this Giro, anyone who thinks the "biopassport" works needs to have their head examined.

Cycling is as dirty as it has ever been. Astana putting two guys on the podium, winning stage after stage = Vino and Kash from years back = Ricco and Piepoli at Saunier.

Just a huge FU to the entire cycling world.

as I suggested in the stage thread: it looks like Astana was allowed to continue on the condition they won't attempt to win a GT - so they were just showing how powerful they are, winning stages, getting max allowed in GC (2nd and 3rd), swapping their guys at random, and trying to look as stupid as possible tactically (look at today's stage forum) so that people will finally get it (that this is not normal)
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
After this Giro, anyone who thinks the "biopassport" works needs to have their head examined.

Cycling is as dirty as it has ever been. Astana putting two guys on the podium, winning stage after stage = Vino and Kash from years back = Ricco and Piepoli at Saunier.

Just a huge FU to the entire cycling world.

and not a peep from Vaughters or Millar......they would look like bigger idiots than we know they are trying to sell a clean sport now!
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
After this Giro, anyone who thinks the "biopassport" works needs to have their head examined.

Cycling is as dirty as it has ever been. Astana putting two guys on the podium, winning stage after stage = Vino and Kash from years back = Ricco and Piepoli at Saunier.

Just a huge FU to the entire cycling world.

Today reminded me of Froome putting the handbrake on for Wiggins on the Peyresourde at 2012 Tour, even though Froome could have caught Valverde if he had been unleashed. Froome trying to tow Porte to a stage win to Risoul at the 2013 Dauphine also comes to mind.

Astana were so confident in their ability to win the stage that they were able to pick their preferred winner. The entire Giro has made a mockery of Cookson's talk of Astana drinking at the last chance saloon.
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
After this Giro, anyone who thinks the "biopassport" works needs to have their head examined.

Cycling is as dirty as it has ever been. Astana putting two guys on the podium, winning stage after stage = Vino and Kash from years back = Ricco and Piepoli at Saunier.

Just a huge FU to the entire cycling world.
The biopassport is only a multi parameter limiter like the 50% rule that's all.
Most likely Ferrari magic potion in action. Except for Landa at Trentino, none of them showed any kind of form whatsoever.
They literally poured crap over Cookson, the TRC & UCI openily with them looking on impotently.
Astana Full *** looks much more ridiculous than Sky full *** in the TDF but closer to Postal.