Astana transfusion equipment "Criminal"

[Race Radio]

But like I said, what does that mean? Is it the same type of DNA "evidence" that convicted the American girl in Italy recently that no other law authorities recognise as trustworthy? It could be from anyone who has used the hotel room in the last ten years. We just don't know what type of DNA it is.

So why did you start talking about Armstrong then? Actually we are not sure - it certainly seems to suggest the blood transfusion sets belonged to the winner of the tour.

I understand that the time in jail was traumatic. I am sure you wife is still mad about the "Faking Cancer" story Thing.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ong-fan-faked-cancer-to-marry-girlfriend.html
But this does not mean you need to invent things.

The article refers to "The Team" not Contador directly. If you read the posts on this thread the only rider that has been signaled out is Contador, by you. The rest of us have rightly indicated that this is an issue for all members of the team and it's management.

 

[Polish]

"Formation" refers to the team. You've already been told that.

There is no suggestion of a particular rider other than...well... anyone on Astana. Of course it's obvious that Bruyneel et. al. have been blood doping for years, but hey, sure, might as well start the disinformation that it's only about Contador now.

Blood Doping for years? What, ever since Operation Peurto?
Bruyneel implicated in that one?

 

[Anonymous]

If you post about him, don't quote him directly. I really have no desire to see what that whack job has to say about anything. Seems he doesn't like me, I must be doing something right. What a loser that guy is.

 

[tubularglue]

are

back to the point.

where does it say under wada restrictions that tranfusion bag use is illegal?

this is the stick in the point

we are not talking about injections.

 

[Anonymous]

I understand that the time in jail was traumatic. I am sure you wife is still mad about the "Faking Cancer" story Thing.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ong-fan-faked-cancer-to-marry-girlfriend.html
But this does not mean you need to invent things.

The article refers to "The Team" not Contador directly. If you read the posts on this thread the only rider that has been signaled out is Contador, by you. The rest of us have rightly indicated that this is an issue for all members of the team and it's management.

Wow, he is a fatty isn't he? Dang.

 

[teamcinzano]

My guess is this will go about as far as the Actovegin in the trash investigation. If all else fails, the UCI can simply get Vrijman to come in and write up a nice white wash report, chain of custody, and all those usual suspects.

 

[Anonymous]

Blood Doping for years? What, ever since Operation Peurto?
Bruyneel implicated in that one?

You are stupid.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

If you post about him, don't quote him directly. I really have no desire to see what that whack job has to say about anything. Seems he doesn't like me, I must be doing something right. What a loser that guy is.

Fixed it. Indeed it was about him. I removed the quotes.

 

[Rex Hunter]

I understand that the time in jail was traumatic. I am sure you wife is still mad about the "Faking Cancer" story Thing.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ong-fan-faked-cancer-to-marry-girlfriend.html
But this does not mean you need to invent things.

Slight contradiction there, no?

The article refers to "The Team" not Contador directly. If you read the posts on this thread the only rider that has been signaled out is Contador, by you. The rest of us have rightly indicated that this is an issue for all members of the team and it's management.

No, someone said they think training might mean the team, but they weren't sure. And you interjected Armstrong's name, claiming you know what he will say about it, in your second post. Most here are clearly gunning against him.

 

[Anonymous]

My guess is this will go about as far as the Actovegin in the trash investigation. If all else fails, the UCI can simply get Vrijman to come in and write up a nice white wash report, chain of custody, and all those usual suspects.

If The Uniballer's DNA is present, you hit the nail on the head. If not, he will still not win the TdF next year.

 

[Anonymous]

Fixed it. Indeed it was about him. I removed the quotes.

Thanks man!

BTW, you work on the "Theory" thread great, KUDOS!

 

[Deagol]

His Highness was on. He had to mention the 53 times he was tested. See, Lance is actually on the cross, and I am sure nobody else was tested nearly that much last year...

Like Lance's accessory dog Levi would ever be asked on Conan...

Thanks, I assumed it was LA on Conan, but you never know (not a big Late Night TV watcher).
I don’t know about you guys, but I would be very surprised if this DNA was ever actually allowed to be matched. I think the UCI would see it as a threat to their revenue stream if these super-stars were busted. However, If it actually were to happen, I would be much more enthusiastic and non-cynical about pro cycling than I am today….

 

[Rex Hunter]

If The Uniballer's DNA is present, you hit the nail on the head. If not, he will still not win the TdF next year.

Unless someone else's DNA is present...

This might be a Christmas present for Armstrong.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks, I assumed it was LA on Conan, but you never know (not a big Late Night TV watcher).
I don’t know about you guys, but I would be very surprised if this DNA was ever actually allowed to be matched. I think the UCI would see it as a threat to their revenue stream if these super-stars were busted. However, If it actually were to happen, I would be much more enthusiastic and non-cynical about pro cycling than I am today….

Well, Patty already declared this year's TdF the cleanest ever, and said that next year's would be clean also. Also be sure that the US media will focus on headlines like "Tour Champ Contador's team busted with transfusion equipment" and the like. I am sure Lance is conjuring up a twitter as we speak...

 

[python]

My guess is this will go about as far as the Actovegin in the trash investigation. If all else fails, the UCI can simply get Vrijman to come in and write up a nice white wash report, chain of custody, and all those usual suspects.

wont help because its a criminal investigation. the french can even involve the us justice system by engaging interpol if they refuse to travel to france. as i mentioned earlier, afld does have armstrong's dna if the uci turn them down.

 

[blackcat]

is S'Rex C'Hunter getting paid by Public Strategies?

 

[Psalmon]

Isn't this an update to an October story?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/8305492.stm

October 14:
"The material is being analysed to determine whether we can find illegal substances and DNA that could possibly link it to riders."

So now they just have some DNA pulls. I can't tell if this is still a "preliminary" or yet a "formal" investigation (i.e. been upgraded or not).

 

[Deagol]

Well, Patty already declared this year's TdF the cleanest ever, and said that next year's would be clean also. Also be sure that the US media will focus on headlines like "Tour Champ Contador's team busted with transfusion equipment" and the like. I am sure Lance is conjuring up a twitter as we speak...

Yes, I remember Pat’s quote. What an idiot. If you are going to be corrupt, that’s one thing. But to announce it to the world? ……..

 

[Race Radio]

is S'Rex C'Hunter getting paid by Public Strategies?

If so they should ask for their money back because he has only succeeded in making their man look foolish.

 

[Rex Hunter]

is S'Rex C'Hunter getting paid by Public Strategies?

I wish, Blackcat.

To be honest I don't think a PR firm would consider an internet forum important. Their job is to shape the view of the mainstream media opinion. People who are interested enough to be on a forum are usually dogmatic and unwilling to change their minds anyway - they have already made their minds up. It's the people that haven't made their minds up that are important.

 

[blackcat]

I think you are CJ Hunter, Marion Jones former husband and coach right?

 

[Anonymous]

In all honesty, I hope this has legs and that Contador and Lance are implicated. To see Contador at the top of the climb in the TT breathing normally (when even the Uniballer was red faced and dying) was hard to take even if he was beating Lance at his own game. That type of performance is just hard to watch anymore.

 

[blackcat]

I wish, Blackcat.

To be honest I don't think a PR firm would consider an internet forum important. Their job is to shape the view of the mainstream media opinion. People who are interested enough to be on a forum are usually dogmatic and unwilling to change their minds anyway - they have already made their minds up. It's the people that haven't made their minds up that are important.

think you need to read The Fountainhead a few more times Rex.

 

[BroDeal]

Take Leecheimer out of the running and since Contador was fearful of sabotage by the team, maybe Contador will end up being the odd man out. I would not count on it, but that would make my year.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

For those of you just joining this thread, let me summarize the discussion so far.