luckyboy said:He rides for Astana. All this stuff is kinda pointless to talk about no?
this could be said for pretty much every professional cycling team. Oh he rides for Lefevre, Vino, Riis, Savio, ochowiz blah blah blah.
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luckyboy said:He rides for Astana. All this stuff is kinda pointless to talk about no?
The Hitch said:Coming from someone who has never had any problem accusing riders of doping if they beat his favourite riders
Dear Wiggo said:Luckily he just sat in the bunch all day yesterday and didn't spend any energy... oh wait.
Ferminal said:I thought we established in 2011 or 2012 that 6.2 W/kg for a fresh hour is legit.
blackcat said:...a rider might be talented enuff to pull off 6w/k
but a rider who is limited to 5w/k might also be able to do 6w/k, but with a little assistance. say, like a 41yo at the Vuelta.
we aint all created even...
FoxxyBrown1111 said:1+
That´s the mistake the all-are-dopers posters do. They can´t extract talented (and maybe a lit assisted*) performance from obvious über doped performance.
Aru is young and gradual progressing, Horner is old and has not even been on a GT roster his age.
Some clinic guys are blinded like naive fanboys. Both groups can´t distinguish because of their fanatism...
* Who isn´t in 2014? It starts with power and chemical/genetic enhanced food, goes trou so-called energy drinks and ends with a pill for these and that (sleeping, headache, painkillers, psycho pills, and what else)...
hrotha said:Very promising rider who took a ridiculously large step forward all of sudden.
thehog said:Finished 2nd behind Dombrowski at the Baby Giro in 2012. He's well known in Italy. Has always had a lot of talent.
Yes, hence the "very promising rider" bit. He still took a ridiculously large step forward all of sudden in this Giro.thehog said:Finished 2nd behind Dombrowski at the Baby Giro in 2012. He's well known in Italy. Has always had a lot of talent.
Ferminal said:lol, Aru at 3km to go reminded me of Bertie owning the moto around the left hander on Galibier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fANhWhHShks&feature=player_detailpage#t=2670
Zam_Olyas said:Who said that? Can you find the post?
The Hitch said:I like that Froome chose Pena Cabarga over Plance des belles filles.
But Contador was really stupid choosing Lance. Indurain is such a more obvious option.
movingtarget said:Richie Porte also did well in the Baby Giro. Amateur results don't always correspond to what happens later. Roman Sicard ? Many good amateurs never reach the top pro level. Same in most sports.
hrotha said:Yes, hence the "very promising rider" bit. He still took a ridiculously large step forward all of sudden in this Giro.
roundabout said:to be fair, I think that it may have been the first year of him focusing on the road.
he did consider quitting in 2010 though according to one of the interviews
movingtarget said:Richie Porte also did well in the Baby Giro.
Fagniniwins said:I remember reading a CN(?) article comment which cited an off-the-record French journalist who dismissed Sicard as "a rider created in a lab," or something to that effect.
Yes, all very Internety--I can't even find the original comment now--but I am reminded of that characterization every time his name comes up. Especially since he has done nothing before or since 2009 while better riders with stronger palmares as espoirs--Coppel springs to mind--are ekeing out careers at Pro Conti level.
Aru is very narrow on a TT bike, I'll give him that; I saw a head-on shot on Eurosport and found myself wondering where the rest of him went.
The Hitch said:Porte won the tt.
Which is why no one has ever held his tt performance against him.
He did nothing special in the mountains which is why when he dropped even Quintana and everyone else on bonsacre while only half trying and trying to chat with other riders, it got a different response.
indeed. cold weather works against the stick insects, so disadvantage froome on the 16th stage. he would have smoked the others in the flat TT and mountaintop finishes however, so depends how much bonking in the cold would have costed him.movingtarget said:So the future looks like the Vertically Challenged against the Stick Insects. Next time they meet could be interesting probably in Tour 2015. What a shame we can't seem to get all of the best GC riders in the one GT anymore. Would have been fascinating to see how Froome, Nibali and Contador would have gone in this race.
FoxxyBrown1111 said:1+
That´s the mistake the all-are-dopers posters do. They can´t extract talented (and maybe a lit assisted*) performance from obvious über doped performance.
Aru is young and gradual progressing, Horner is old and has not even been on a GT roster his age.
Some clinic guys are blinded like naive fanboys. Both groups can´t distinguish because of their fanatism...
* Who isn´t in 2014? It starts with power and chemical/genetic enhanced food, goes trou so-called energy drinks and ends with a pill for these and that (sleeping, headache, painkillers, psycho pills, and what else)...