Australian Coverage of Cycling...disgraceful

[Martin318is]

actually, I have just been watching the last two night's summary programmes and the start of tonights coverage.

There was virtually NO coverage of anything that WASN'T Cadel..

What in the world are you crying about ACF?

 

[Martin318is]

oh...
and in the edited highlights from the stage the other night, Phil and Paul make impressed sympathetic comments about Cadel's crash THREE TIMES in the last 30km of the stage - and thats just the footage that they didnt cut out.
how many more times were they supposed to comment?

 

[saganftw]

at least you dont have to listen to commentator who is obssesed with handsome spanish riders (particularly oscar pereiro,now LLS and gutierrez)

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Utter, utter garbage ACF.

agreed. he was mention a lot. other then la, they mention no other rider more.

 

[Stuart]

agreed. he was mention a lot. other then la, they mention no other rider more.

Well I think Wiggins gets a big look in as well as they're commentating for nearly all, if not all English speaking countries receiving the live feed and seem to mention at least one main rider from each of those during the broadcasts.

Still, I thought that in stage 9 Liggett and Sherwin were out of order the way they gleefully danced on the grave of Cadel, the man in yellow, while still trying to build up Armstrong and say that it's all down to bad luck why he's not winning - give me a break. I just turn off the sound and enjoy the racing.

Go Jens!

 

[Greg Johnson]

Still, I thought that in stage 9 Liggett and Sherwin were out of order the way they gleefully danced on the grave of Cadel, the man in yellow, while still trying to build up Armstrong and say that it's all down to bad luck why he's not winning - give me a break. I just turn off the sound and enjoy the racing.

If you're referring to those comments where they excuse LA's bomb on the previous stage due to his crashes, but then hammer Evans for his abysmal performance last night...I couldn't agree more.

Fortunately the news that BMC revealed afterwards hammers home the idiocy in the comments even more.

Two riders, two crashes, two unexpected deficits – yet different judgements? No bias there.

Cheers
Greg Johnson

 

[M Sport]

Anyone want to know why Tomo appears to not like Cadel? Remember the "Don't touch me" ***** slap from 2008? That was Tomo poking Cadel. SBS never advertised that one of their employees initiated that YouTube classic hit, Fortunately some people down under certainly heard about it and have no qualms reminding people what really happened.

Is that right!!!! lol Thanks for that little bit of info.

Here I was the whole time thinking badly of Cadel for that, now I wish he had of king hit that jumped up prat Tomalaris. Seriously, I can put up with Phil's bias because at least Lance will finish racing shortly, the rest of the SBS team is good, but I don't know why they persist with Tomalaris.

 

[PACONi]

Phil and Paul are woeful. Tomalaris is just as bad, but at least they can tell who is leading the race. The Herald Sun has a reporter, Leo Schlink, covering the race from France and his article in today's paper has Frank Schleck as the new leader. Great journalism there!
I posted a comment (harsh correction/criticism) online, but they didn't publish it. They did fix the article on their website though.

 

[Ferminal]

Well I think Wiggins gets a big look in as well as they're commentating for nearly all, if not all English speaking countries receiving the live feed and seem to mention at least one main rider from each of those during the broadcasts.

Still, I thought that in stage 9 Liggett and Sherwin were out of order the way they gleefully danced on the grave of Cadel, the man in yellow, while still trying to build up Armstrong and say that it's all down to bad luck why he's not winning - give me a break. I just turn off the sound and enjoy the racing.

Go Jens!

Wow, that's horrible!

I'm glad I gave the telly the miss and stuck to the online stream on mute, whilst listening to that nyvelocity audio, nice work by those guys.

 

[battery89]

If you're referring to those comments where they excuse LA's bomb on the previous stage due to his crashes, but then hammer Evans for his abysmal performance last night...I couldn't agree more.

Fortunately the news that BMC revealed afterwards hammers home the idiocy in the comments even more.

Two riders, two crashes, two unexpected deficits – yet different judgements? No bias there.

Cheers
Greg Johnson

+1. Absolutely ridiculous imo. Only worsened when Tomalaris continued the same line after the race.

Bring on Keenan/McKenzie/Andersen. Even someone like Matty Wilson did some part time coverage for SBS awhile ago and he was pretty decent as well. Hopefully he gets a gig there after he retires from Garmin.

 

[ProfTournesol]

The good thing about Mike Tomalaris is that he had stuck with cycling and helped SBS persist with it's Tour coverage, expanding it to a full live coverage and live coverage of other cycling events like Paris-Roubaix. He deserves praise and support for that and for his enthusiasm. Having said that it amazes me that given the time he has been involved, and the people he has had a chance to be involved with, he appears to have learnt nothing, his continuing ignorance is astounding. Paul Sherwin is a Lance fanboi from his days as Motorola press officer, clearly he sees this as an honorary lifetime position. It's disappointing to see how Liggett and Sherwin and also Sean Kelly on Eurosport bag Cadel, either damning him with faint praise in a very condescending manner or attacking him for not been the swashbuckling superhero that he isn't, whilst also applying a different standard to a certain other rider that they are completely in thrall to.
Phil Liggett is the Murray Walker of cycling and his errors of fact are becoming increasingly bizarre: last night he kept insisting that Col de Madeleine was Col du Colombiere. At times I just turn the sound off as an alternative to throwing up. If only Matt Keenan could do the complete coverage.

 

[ProfTournesol]

It wasn't exactly a spectacular move of Evans that netted him the yellow jersey yesterday, he merely hung on in the group of favorites (not even at the front) while the previous jersey and runner up didn't manage.

True, yellow jersey is yellow jersey but cycling is not exactly the most popular sport and besides it's only the first week of the tour.

amazing isn't it, Cadel says over and over again, "I didn't attack because I was riding on the rivet" and yet people keep criticising him for not attacking

 

[the big ring]

...
Anyone want to know why Tomo appears to not like Cadel? Remember the "Don't touch me" ***** slap from 2008? That was Tomo poking Cadel. SBS never advertised that one of their employees initiated that YouTube classic hit, Fortunately some people down under certainly heard about it and have no qualms reminding people what really happened.

What's your source?

 

[auscyclefan94]

amazing isn't it, Cadel says over and over again, "I didn't attack because I was riding on the rivet" and yet people keep criticising him for not attacking

They don't understand cycling. Give em a break!

If you're referring to those comments where they excuse LA's bomb on the previous stage due to his crashes, but then hammer Evans for his abysmal performance last night...I couldn't agree more.

Fortunately the news that BMC revealed afterwards hammers home the idiocy in the comments even more.

Two riders, two crashes, two unexpected deficits – yet different judgements? No bias there.

Cheers
Greg Johnson

I guess as te race develops my comments have more creedence.

 

[barn yard]

phil has a photo of lance on his twitter page for christ's sake

 

[Greg Johnson]

They don't understand cycling. Give em a break!

Does that mean we should give a break to those covering the sport that don't understand it? Because suddenly many are off the hook

I guess as te race develops my comments have more creedence.

I remark only on one specific comment. You're commenting on an entire nation's coverage...which includes Cyclingnews, as we're Australian

Cheers
Greg Johnson

 

[auscyclefan94]

Does that mean we should give a break to those covering the sport that don't understand it? Because suddenly many are off the hook



I remark only on one specific comment. You're commenting on an entire nation's coverage...which includes Cyclingnews, as we're Australian

Cheers
Greg Johnson

CN is an international cycling outlet based that covers cycling for english speaking nations. I am more meant fans with that remark. People who are paid to follow cycling and say he does not attack or people who act like their experts and say he does not attack is when that remark honestly needs to be called up on.

 

[Greg Johnson]

CN is an international cycling outlet based that covers cycling for english speaking nations. I am more meant fans with that remark. People who are paid to follow cycling and say he does not attack or people who act like their experts and say he does not attack is when that remark honestly needs to be called up on.

Dude, it was sarcasm

Cheers
Greg Johnson

 

[auscyclefan94]

Dude, it was sarcasm

Cheers
Greg Johnson

Sorry... I am just a bit annoyed at some peoples comments about certain things.

 

[craig1985]

Please get your facts right and don't just sprout random bits of info that you believe to be true.

Mark Webber has never won any Grand Prix more than once. Ever. His first win was last year. Thus, he cannot possibly have won a race 5 times. There is only one F1 driver racing who can lay claim to having won any one event 5 times. Michael Schumacher and he has won quite a few races multiple times.

If that wasn't what you were doing then please have the courtesy of checking your grammar. Webber is in with a very strong chance of winning the F1 drivers championship. He has been denied wins in the two previous rounds. Add in both of those with his wins so far and he'd have had 5 on the trot. He deserves his time in the sun.

You did not whinge like this when Evans had the Maglia Rosa and received even less coverage, At least this time the stage and GT was on free to air tv for people to watch.

As for the commentary. Phil Anderson was being neutral and balanced, just as a journalist should. Tomalaris was an erratic nutcase. I hope he leaves some time soon. He is woeful. That other clown is also a disgrace. By his commentary it is quite clear AS already has the Tour won. What a douchebag. I don't give a flying F#%K what history you have in the sport, when commentating you have to keep it real. That man was a BS artist. An amateur imitating a master of exaggeration. Or maybe he was just giddy in front of the camera. Either way I hope I don't have to hear his half-arsed race analysis in tandem with Tomo again. They missed all the obvious points and exaggerated the ones that meant little.

Anyone want to know why Tomo appears to not like Cadel? Remember the "Don't touch me" ***** slap from 2008? That was Tomo poking Cadel. SBS never advertised that one of their employees initiated that YouTube classic hit, Fortunately some people down under certainly heard about it and have no qualms reminding people what really happened.

I don't always agree with you, but respect man, you know a thing or two about the sport. And nobody rants like you on here.

 

[Archibald]

Still, I thought that in stage 9 Liggett and Sherwin were out of order the way they gleefully danced on the grave of Cadel, the man in yellow, while still trying to build up Armstrong and say that it's all down to bad luck why he's not winning

very poetic that the moment they said this LA got dropped too

seriously, Stanford n Waldo could do a better job than these two.

as for Tomalaris and SBS, there was no mention of the McEwen crash at all... seriously, that deserved some coverage. Do they even know that Mick Rogers is still out there?
was speaking with a mate who works at SBS and they don't think too highly of "Tomo"

 

[eljimberino]

Tried to listen to Eurosport (Roche and the other dude) with the sound down on the TV, but it was out of sync. Will try again tonight.

All will be well in a few years when there are a greater number of retired cyclists willing to be serious about commentating. McEwen and Keenen in the studio, O'Grady special comments from a motorbike. Dodger interviewing the younger riders: Porte and Myers. Evans in a helicopter switching from English to Italian and back.

Ive said it once and Ill say it again, SBS are a bunch of amatuers who do well on the budget they have.

 

[leftover pie]

Without SBS we'd be ruined, channel 9, 10 or 7 would just destroy the pleasure of watching the tour for everyone.

 

[Saddlesaw]

What's your source?

http://www.hardiegrant.com.au/Books/Books/Book.aspx?isbn=9781740666671

...hence my earlier post in this thread where I said "he punched him"....

 

[craig1985]

Without SBS we'd be ruined, channel 9, 10 or 7 would just destroy the pleasure of watching the tour for everyone.

Yeah SBS is my favourite channel for that reason. Just a shame the rugby league and cricket (and I do enjoy a bit of AFL on TV as well) are not on SBS as well, because I would be in heathen.

All we need is some ultra rich cycling fan to step up and make sure SBS gets full coverage of the Giro and the Vuelta.