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DirtyWorks said:
Your application stack looks like this:

nginx cache<-->forum software on http server <--> database stack.

I know the nginx cache was good, it was either the http server running out of resources, or something about a database failure.

My guess is it was the database backend running out of resources as it could not handle the thundering herd of inserts/updates caused by Froome's ridiculous performance.

I'd be interested to know if I'm close. PM me if you guys don't want to post it publicly. I don't know why you would want to hide it because it isn't that important.

As said by Ferm and Susan - the mods have no way of knowing. We're not tech staff.

ElChingon said:
Basically no reply here means you're right :)

As per script, the mods will say they know nothing even if it was a downed server or someone accidentally pulled a plug. Some things are way too predictable :D

Said with a smile - but I'm in the eastern US, and the servers, and server techs are elsewhere in the Universe. I think GB somewhere.

ElChingon said:
Well most forums allow mod/admins to view the error logs or error tab in the admin panel, its all there in black and white.

On the other hand, this forum either blocks you all from viewing any of that or its mums the word on the error log.

Most of us are in the "other hand" group.

I actually understand a little of what you guys are talking about - but I ain't anywhere near the servers, nor any of the server logs, nor any of the server admins/techies.

Scottie, beam me up, time to go home.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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Don't be late Pedro said:
You mean sockets rather than ports, right?

Yup, but as you can see even leaving that out the swoosh sound was loud, imagine if I went into heap and stack or even memory leaks :eek: :D

Seems they signed up the right crew to be admins here ;)
 
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ElChingon said:
Yup, but as you can see even leaving that out the swoosh sound was loud, imagine if I went into heap and stack or even memory leaks :eek: :D

Seems they signed up the right crew to be admins here ;)
In their defence they are meant to be moderators/forum admins not IT admins.
 
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Don't be late Pedro said:
In their defence they are meant to be moderators/forum admins not IT admins.

Well I'll have to disagree with you on that, most forums I have experienced with have more IT type people as part of the mod/admin group for a reason and those are forums that have nothing to do with anything related to IT or computers.
 

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ElChingon said:
Well I'll have to disagree with you on that, most forums I have experienced with have more IT type people as part of the mod/admin group for a reason and those are forums that have nothing to do with anything related to IT or computers.
Sounds wonderful.

So what has any of that to do with this forum?
You do realize it is a news site, with a forum as an add on and that Susan is a journalist?
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
Sounds wonderful.

So what has any of that to do with this forum?
You do realize it is a news site, with a forum as an add on and that Susan is a journalist?

Once again you read yet see what you want or feel should be written but is not, re-read and try again.
 
Jun 22, 2009
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ElChingon said:
Well I'll have to disagree with you on that, most forums I have experienced with have more IT type people as part of the mod/admin group for a reason and those are forums that have nothing to do with anything related to IT or computers.

Loath as I am to disagree with the verified #1 member, in my pretty broad forum experience going back to the end of last century, I can think of only two mods/admins who were also techies, and they were both site owners. Mods/admins usually have very little or nothing to do with the tech side of things, which is why it usually takes a day or more to get a crashed forum back up and running.
 
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At least it didn't take a CN staffer to state the obvious :p

Must of been the clinic as the race thread was dieing down.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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spalco said:
So what are the actual numbers or percentages of additional traffic that caused the forum to break down? Is it really that extreme?

We'll never know, the forum is run by an unknown person(s) on an unknown server powered by an unknown source in an unknown location using an unknown OS with an unknown hardware platform. :eek:
 
Jun 22, 2009
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So, we have a combination cyber attack and software upgrade that takes nearly three weeks! Utterly incredible and unbelievable!

Can Dan Benson or some other Future bod kindly have the common decency to come in here to explain and apologize for this ludicrously long down time?

There's no point asking or 'bashing' the mods about this, as what happened, and why it took as long as it did, was nothing whatsoever to do with them.
 
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Amsterhammer said:
So, we have a combination cyber attack and software upgrade that takes nearly three weeks! Utterly incredible and unbelievable!

Can Dan Benson or some other Future bod kindly have the common decency to come in here to explain and apologize for this ludicrously long down time?

There's no point asking or 'bashing' the mods about this, as what happened, and why it took as long as it did, was nothing whatsoever to do with them.
Do you want your monthly subscription money refunded to you or something...oh wait
 
Mar 17, 2009
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mikeNphilly said:
Do you want your monthly subscription money refunded to you or something...oh wait

hamsterslammer is your typical liberal. thinks everyone owes him something :D







sorry, couldn't resist
 
Jun 22, 2009
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patricknd said:
hamsterslammer is your typical liberal. thinks everyone owes him something :D







sorry, couldn't resist

That's right, I want my hand-outs!:p

According to what I know, what happened was entirely beyond CN's control, and I'm sure that CN (and their advertisers) would not have been too thrilled by the massive drop in traffic with no forums running. But, in view of the size and importance of this pretty large forum to CN, it really wasn't too much to ask, or expect, some kind of reasonable input of information about what was happening and when CN expected things to be up and running again.

What did we get? One 'story' on the news page when the 'attack' was first announced, 19 or so days ago, and since then - zip, nada.

Oh, apart from the wonderful post at the top of this forum which nobody will have seen till today.:rolleyes:
 
Jul 4, 2009
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patricknd said:
hamsterslammer is your typical liberal. thinks everyone owes him something :D

sorry, couldn't resist

....ahh come on....he probably just assumed that he was dealing a reasonable organization that actually values its clients.....whereas in reality he was dealing some "Mega-Corp-Inc" where things like common courtesy just aren't part of the business model....poor deluded A/H:rolleyes:....

....sorry, couldn't resist....

Cheers
 
What annoyed me is the discrepancy between what we were told when the forum was first withdrawn
"Forums, commenting down for maintenance
By: Cycling News
Published: July 19, 14:00,
Updated: July 19, 19:05

The Tour de France is in full swing, and we know our fans are just dying to chat with each other about what's been going on in the race and in other news. However, our operations staff have informed us that a critical update needs to be installed to the third party software that runs our forums and commenting sections.

We extend our apologies for the inconvenience to all of our readers and rest assured, our technicians are hard at work applying this update as quickly as possible."


And what we were eventually told.

Please, be honest and upfront first time next time.