Baron Coe, cleans?

[thehog]

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bump!
Lord Coe role in Eugene 2021 Worlds decision questioned:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/34908237

IAAF president Lord Coe is facing conflict of interest allegations after emails emerged suggesting he lobbied his predecessor over the hosting of the 2021 World Championships.

Eugene, USA, was given the event without a bidding process, despite interest from the Swedish city of Gothenburg.

A BBC investigation has uncovered emails which claim Coe - a Nike ambassador and then-vice president of world athletics - "reached out" to Lamine Diack with his support for Eugene's bid.

It really is farcical. The real issue is that whilst athletics is a public sport those who represent the sport are self appointment. The public has no say in who runs the sport at the highest level.

That being said I don't know how the other sportswear manufactures feel about Coe & Nike. Surely they deserve part of the IAAF attention?

It's too funny for words. I guess Coe learnt how trade on the House of Lords, nothing but corruption at that level.

 

[Zebadeedee]

Come on! He's an Englishman, Conservative and sportsman to boot.

Totally cleans!

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Sebastian Coe should quit Nike advisory role, says MP
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34919176

"Just because he has declared his interests
doesn't mean it is okay."

 

[Nellyspania]

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Sebastian Coe should quit Nike advisory role, says MP
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34919176

"Just because he has declared his interests
doesn't mean it is okay."

Coe has been kept as big news on the BBC sport site for some time now; I think some of their journos had heard strong rumours that something was amiss with him but due to our Iron-fisted libel laws were waiting for some proper dirt before pulling the trigger.

Not many will be upset about this; he's not particularly popular with the masses.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

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That being said I don't know how the other sportswear manufactures feel about Coe & Nike. Surely they deserve part of the IAAF attention?

Adidas is the official IAAF sponsor until 2019. I'm sure they will have a lot to say in a few years about Coe's Nike partnership.

On the other hand, I'm sure Adidas has been playing down that partnership with IAAF the last few weeks.

 

[Zebadeedee]

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That being said I don't know how the other sportswear manufactures feel about Coe & Nike. Surely they deserve part of the IAAF attention?

Adidas is the official IAAF sponsor until 2019. I'm sure they will have a lot to say in a few years about Coe's Nike partnership.

On the other hand, I'm sure Adidas has been playing down that partnership with IAAF the last few weeks.

Keeping their heads down more like. Horst Dassler was arguably the most corrupt influence in the history of sport.
Remember ISL?

 

[Cake]

News - Coe has just announced he will be stepping down from his ambassadorial role with Nike, according to the Guardian

 

[Freddythefrog]

Coe specifically asked, at the news conference in Monaco (where else !) if there was any conflict of interest in his Nike role and being President of the IAAF. No certainly not. He had been thinking about stepping down for sometime and with an 18 hour day being undertaken in his battle to work for the sport/IAAF it was just a distraction.

In fact he had put it before the IAAF ethics committee and he states that they came back to him having made a decision that there was no conflict of interest in the two roles.

Oh and by the way there was also no conflict of interest he stated in him also being Chairman of CSM at the same time. http://www.csm.com/people/sebastian-coe/
Who are CSM ? "Today, CSM is one of the world’s leading agencies with an ever growing global presence. We assist governments, brands, federations and governing bodies as well as not-for-profit organisations to evolve and engage through the power of sport and entertainment."
http://www.csm.com/about-csm/

But although, you fully understand, the ethics committee, god bless all of their cotton socks, have said there is no conflict of interest in CSM doing work associated with the IAAF, Lord Coe has directed that for the duration of his presidency they will do no work for the IAAF nor support any bids from any bidding cities or other bodies seeking to work with the IAAF.

Oh and Lord Coe is going to run his term as Chairman of the BOA and step down after Rio,

Phew - that 18 hour day was getting a bit clogged up there, I was having flashbacks to Tommy Cooper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnotRo2qOtU

Well that sorts out my worries, both Lord Coe and the IAAF ethics committee have told me there is nothing to worry about and who better than the ethics committee
(of the governance of a sport that *** Pound said, yesterday, of the section of the report that they have not made public is that it is a " wow factor. I think people will say how on earth could this happen? It’s a complete betrayal of what the people in charge of the sport should be doing.")

and the guy who told us about them nasty whistle-blowers and journalists only a few weeks ago "Its a declaration of war on my sport".

I will sleep easily tonight. relaxing to the words - "there, there little ones, nothing to worry about" as I count sheep.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

I believe that an independent commission was made to independently investigate independent doping. The independent commission found, independently, that doping in Russia was independent. Independently of the independent investigation though, Cookson believes that the doping in Russia can be fixed, and an independent committee will oversee Russia's reform of independent doping.

My joke reply in the Cookson thread is now a reality in the IAAF. They have just set up an Integrity Unit, to review doping, age-cheating, and betting, independently, of course. Separate from the (independent) Ethics Commission, the goal seems to be like the UCI tribunal, which takes over anti-doping results management from member federations. Independent, streamlined and independent...

 

[TourOfSardinia]

bump!
Seb Coe: IAAF to be quizzed about doping in athletics by UK MPs
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/34979158

Dr Ashenden responded to the IAAF statement by describing it as a "disgraced federation" and said of Coe: "He was particularly vocal about my criticism of the IAAF, and defended its anti-doping department. I say the IAAF failed their athletes. Let's wait and see who is sitting on the right side of history."

 

[Catwhoorg]

I wonder if any of the MPs will have the guts to straight up ask HIM if he ever used blood transfusions.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

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I wonder if any of the MPs will have the guts to straight up ask HIM if he ever used blood transfusions.

It would be better to ask if he took any performance enhancing drugs. A test was only developed for testosterone in 1983. A researcher found 20 percent of samples would have tested positive (beaten the 6:1 ratio) at the 1980 Olympics.

Livestream here. Haven't been and can't listen to eveything, but I'm sure summaries will be posted.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/34413692

 

[armchairclimber]

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I wonder if any of the MPs will have the guts to straight up ask HIM if he ever used blood transfusions.

They'd be given a straight answer ... "no". Not necessarily a truthful answer mind.

 

[The Hitch]

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I wonder if any of the MPs will have the guts to straight up ask HIM if he ever used blood transfusions.

They'd be given a straight answer ... "no". Not necessarily a truthful answer mind.

Yes, but his lordness would probably be outraged by someone having the gall to ask dich a question.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

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I wonder if any of the MPs will have the guts to straight up ask HIM if he ever used blood transfusions.

They'd be given a straight answer ... "no". Not necessarily a truthful answer mind.

Yes, but his lordness would probably be outraged by someone having the gall to ask dich a question.

His lordness's father:

"My father would have killed someone who suggested that I took anything that enhanced my performance."

The closest they came to asking about his athletic experience was this:

Having been an Olympic goal medal-winning athlete in his athletics career in the 1970 and 1980s, Lord Coe is asked if there as there a period when Russia, who have been banned by the IAAF, was clean?

"I genuinely don't know the answer," he says. "We have to recognise it is have a global problem.

"In the 1960s and 70s the Eastern Bloc countries would have said they were only doing what was going on in American campuses.

"This is a lot more enlightened environment. I would not be coming to a select committeee. I don't know the prevalence. Have to assume fewer systems."

 

[Zebadeedee]

Somebody needs to ask the 'great, clean athlete'. Then it's nicely on the record as a benchmark and someone, somewhere might just start to remember something.

 

[Benotti69]

half decent article on Coe

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/dec/02/sebastian-coe-waffling-apologist-iaaf-parliament

 

[Catwhoorg]

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I wonder if any of the MPs will have the guts to straight up ask HIM if he ever used blood transfusions.

They'd be given a straight answer ... "no". Not necessarily a truthful answer mind.

But that would then be on record and if something emerged in the future.

Lets just say, flat out lying to s straight question of fact, to a parliamentary committee is one thing you do not want to be caught doing.

 

[armchairclimber]

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I wonder if any of the MPs will have the guts to straight up ask HIM if he ever used blood transfusions.

They'd be given a straight answer ... "no". Not necessarily a truthful answer mind.

But that would then be on record and if something emerged in the future.

Lets just say, flat out lying to s straight question of fact, to a parliamentary committee is one thing you do not want to be caught doing.

Indeed, but he will know that it would be extraordinarily difficult to prove. Even though, as I have said, I know people who were close to his old fella who think he played with blood...and this has been further substantiated to me by PM here, I doubt there is anyone who would have evidence or would give testimony...and it wasn't "illegal" at the time anyway.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

If Coe doped, it wouldn't just be transfusions.

Total speculation, but it seems the way that the focus on blood doping and the way it has brought out rumors of blood doping, is drawing attention from the fact that there could be the same kind of rumors about other substances. I'm sure someone knows Coe blood doped, but I'm also sure someone knows he took other stuff. That latter case has yet to be drawn out.

 

[blackcat]

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If Coe doped, it wouldn't just be transfusions.

Total speculation, but it seems the way that the focus on blood doping and the way it has brought out rumors of blood doping, is drawing attention from the fact that there could be the same kind of rumors about other substances. I'm sure someone knows Coe blood doped, but I'm also sure someone knows he took other stuff. That latter case has yet to be drawn out.

exogenous testosterone also provides a slight rise your crit, <rule of thumb> which will very pending the individual...

 

[blackcat]

makes me think of this Bjarne Riis mashup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyqyVKSJiOM

 

[armchairclimber]

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If Coe doped, it wouldn't just be transfusions.

Total speculation, but it seems the way that the focus on blood doping and the way it has brought out rumors of blood doping, is drawing attention from the fact that there could be the same kind of rumors about other substances. I'm sure someone knows Coe blood doped, but I'm also sure someone knows he took other stuff. That latter case has yet to be drawn out.

Obviously I have to be careful what I say because my source was close to him and his Dad. There was no hint of anything else, but with an athlete as good as he was, with the training regime he had, autologous blood transfusion would have been enough to move him from winner to world record breaker.

 

[MarkvW]

The Baron is looking pretty filthy right about now.

 

[Zebadeedee]

Lord Muck send best wishes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/12056983/Athletics-chiefs-are-still-refusing-to-disown-poisoned-past.html