Baron Coe, cleans?

[blackcat]

Why "cleans" and not "clean"? Is this country specific? An inside joke? Clinic code?

Curious minds want to know

clinic idiom

like lolcatz, just changing a "s" to a "z", stuffing around with your grammar, etc.

if the cyclists are gunna be walking buffoons and tomfoolery, we should get in on the act in The Clinic 12. we did.

 

[frenchfry]

clinic idiom

like lolcatz, just changing a "s" to a "z", stuffing around with your grammar, etc.

if the cyclists are gunna be walking buffoons and tomfoolery, we should get in on the act in The Clinic 12. we did.

Thankz for the explanation. I suspected the 12 from the beginning but didn't have any proofs.

 

[del1962]

Andy Norman might have known, but he is long dead.

 

[hondated]

Your right but his wife Fatima Whitbread is still very much alive !

 

[coinneach]

Your right but his wife Fatima Whitbread is still very much alive !

And anyone who thinks SHE was clean believes in Santa Klaus

 

[thehog]

And anyone who thinks SHE was clean believes in Santa Klaus

True, she used to come down to an estate near where I lived. It was named after her. Man her body shape was weird.

 

[coinneach]

True, she used to come down to an estate near where I lived. It was named after her. Man her body shape was weird.

I saw her beat tessa Sanderson to the commie games gold in edinburgh, and boy, was there ever a case of an athlete being beaten by a GDR substitute!
( it was thrilling, though!)

 

[yespatterns]

Beastly, absolutely beastly she was.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Cleans

Why "cleans" and not "clean"? Is this country specific? An inside joke? Clinic code?
Curious minds want to know

I read it as an insider irony -
since it suggests the opposite of the intended meaning of clean.

Cleans breaks the rules of grammar making it in a pseuo-noun
just as
Dopers break the rules of the game making it into a pseudo-performance
voila!

 

[del1962]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/inside-lines-sebastian-coe-will-have-a-job-on-his-hands-to-dispel-drugs-taint-9923172.html

Twenty years ago, Sebastian Coe was sitting at Victoria’s Centennial Stadium, the track-and-field venue for the 1994 Commonwealth Games in Canada, when news came through that Diane Modahl, a British athlete who seemed to epitomise all that was good in the sport, had failed a drugs test and was being sent home.

Visibly shocked, Coe sighed: “If Diane Modahl is on drugs then there is no hope for athletics.”

As it happened, Modahl, then the 28-year-old reigning Commonwealth Games 800m champion, was exonerated after a lengthy appeal process. It transpired there had been serious flaws in the testing procedure. No doubt Lord Coe has a disquieting sense of déjà vu as the approaching tsunami of shame which threatens to swamp his sport might embrace a Brit of even greater stature than Modahl.

If the name being bandied around (and lawyers have moved swiftly to ensure it is not made public) as the alleged miscreant in a blood-doping scandal really is culpable then Coe must again be wondering if there is any hope for his sport.

 

[thehog]

I read it as an insider irony -
since it suggests the opposite of the intended meaning of clean.

Cleans breaks the rules of grammar making it in a pseuo-noun
just as
Dopers break the rules of the game making it into a pseudo-performance
voila!

Insider story, yes.

It's actaully a reference to a poster months ago who kept saying Froome was cleans. It kinda stuck from there. Unpolished diamond, I believe.

 

[The Hitch]

If sports journos are still using quotes like "epitomizes all that is good in sport" which belong in fairy tales and disney films and not accounts of what is going on in the cruel capricious world that we live in, then there really is no hope for sport.

 

[del1962]

Your right but his wife Fatima Whitbread is still very much alive !

Anyway Andy Norman was best man at Ovett's wedding, they later fell out.

Some info on Norman's career (from 1994)

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/bad-sport-for-the-best-part-of-two-decades-andy-norman-has-been-one-of-the-most-powerful-figures-in-international-sport-now-however-following-a-series-of-damaging-allegations-against-him-his-extraordinary-career-in-british-athletics-appears-to-be-approaching-a-spectacularly-sticky-end-1427309.html

IN the 80s I was aware of Andy Normans presence in UK Athletics scene

In Britain, the growing prevalence of steroid abuse did not cause much concern at first. Sponsors continued to rush into what seemed, then, to be a good, clean game; and the athletics boom, fuelled by Ovett and Coe's assault on the world mile record, continued. Norman thrived, and the other officials - whatever their private reservations about his manner, his methods or the possibility that not all the cheats at his meetings were getting caught - just let him get on with it.

Mention is made in the article of a British Hammer thrower who alleges Norman helped him evade a drugs test.

No real mention to Coe in there but a lot allegations on the shenanigans in British Athletics including race fixing, making sure no one failed a drugs test and dodgy financial favoritism.

Frank Horwill (2011 MBE) was a friend, who according to the article was imprisoned for taking bribes (very hard to find other references to this on the intrenet), anyway he wrote a book on high intensity training methods for middle distance runners, basically saying you don't need high mileage (just 50mpw) but high intensity with short breaks between intevals, this went against Arthur Lydiards high mileage (100pw) for middle distance athletes.

 

[the sceptic]

There is definitely no hope for athletics if Coe becomes the IAAF president.

 

[DirtyWorks]

There is definitely no hope for athletics if Coe becomes the IAAF president.

Exactly. He reminds me of Hushovd. The guy is quoted as suggesting banning Russia is somehow appropriate.

The only thing banning Russians from competition would do is eliminate any reminders of widespread federation corruption. In this sense, the JADCO story was managed brilliantly.

Coe needs to follow Shorter's lead. But that's not going to deliver a presidential office at the IAAF.

 

[del1962]

More info on Coe for you

http://www.charliefrancis.com/community/showthread.php?18512-Pat-Butcher-on-Chambers

Read the bit where because Chambers did a tell all about drug taking that according to the Pat Butcher (no not the east enders character, but the journalist wrote the article I quoted and linked in an earlier post) says that Coe wanted to extend his ban. Surely Coe should have been pleased that Chambers did a tell all.

EDIT: found a link to original article

http://www.globerunner.org/index.php/03/honestly/

 

[blackcat]

Insider story, yes.

It's actaully a reference to a poster months ago who kept saying Froome was cleans. It kinda stuck from there. Unpolished diamond, I believe.

no actually Congo and Rhodesia blood diamond mines of Paul Sherwen esquire

 

[blackcat]

If sports journos are still using quotes like "epitomizes all that is good in sport" which belong in fairy tales and disney films and not accounts of what is going on in the cruel capricious world that we live in, then there really is no hope for sport.

aint sports journos just groupies by another name

 

[hondated]

And anyone who thinks SHE was clean believes in Santa Klaus

Good point.

 

[the sceptic]

http://zeenews.india.com/sports/oth...a-must-not-be-banned-over-doping_1552660.html

"People are saying `we must kick these federations out of sport`. No, actually good presidencies make sure that we help them create an environment and systems that do have integrity and do have trust and that is our responsibility as well," said Coe, currently an IAAF vice-president.

Coe praised comments by Russia`s sports minister "talking in terms of wanting integrity and trust in sport. They have been through a difficult time but those are the right responses."

"I know that the ministry of sport in Russia and the Russian federation are very keen to establish good working relationships, to establish new systems and and new people and those are the right responses," said Coe.

"The IAAF must do everything it can to help those federations that want to re-engineer and want to change," he added.

"The IAAF does more testing than any other sport out there. We are very open and very transparent about how we test,"

nothing to see here. Russia is cleans.

 

[DirtyWorks]

http://zeenews.india.com/sports/oth...a-must-not-be-banned-over-doping_1552660.html


nothing to see here. Russia is cleans.

Did everyone forget Diack and some other guy were taking bribes?

There's no question Russia's situation is not good, but, the IAAF is compromised from the very top.

Yeah, Coe knows how to talk the talk.

 

[thehog]

http://zeenews.india.com/sports/oth...a-must-not-be-banned-over-doping_1552660.html


nothing to see here. Russia is cleans.

The Russians are very persuasive. They make people agree with them after short discussions.

Now, please, come celebrate with us. We have vodka and woman waiting for you. No cameras I can assure you. We want to make you as comfortable as possible.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

The Russians are very persuasive. They make people agree with them after short discussions.

Now, please, come celebrate with us. We have vodka and woman waiting for you. No cameras I can assure you. We want to make you as comfortable as possible.

Good post Hog. You better stop that Russian smack or else someone or somesnake will get upset with you!

 

[neineinei]

John Leicester was less impressed with Coe.

Coe's anemic, formulaic response to AP was far less enlightening or encouraging.

"I am aware that the IAAF has already opened a dossier on this issue based on allegations of serious doping infractions. It is IAAF policy not to comment on pending doping cases" said his statement.

That's it? Where's the passion and urgency? Due process, of course, must take its plodding course. But it shouldn't prevent those who want to be leaders from also having the courage to call a spade a spade. Coe and Bubka should set the tone for their presidency by dropping diplomatic niceties. Kick up a much bigger fuss and shame Russia loudly and publicly into more decisive and visible action. They must be far more vocal than the man one of them will succeed, outgoing IAAF President Lamine Diack. Whatever pressure has been applied on Russia behind the scenes on his watch hasn't been enough.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/0...-and-deception-is-acid-test-for-coe-bubka-in/

 

[movingtarget]

I used to love those 1500 metre and 800 metre races between Coe and Ovett doping or not. Rivalry in sport is good to watch. But in those days every communist on the track was doping so why not the Brits and how could they compete otherwise ?