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Is there video of what Vermeersch did? Or just the aftermath?

I remember the 2017 Giro stage 3, where Greipel had made the split, was next to a Quickstep rider in the front echelon... and suddenly he bumped sideways and was out of the echelon and Gaviria won the stage.

I'm not saying what Vermeersch did was basically the sort of tricks that lots of Belgian teams, Quickstep included, pretty much always get up to in echelons, but...
 
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Is there video of what Vermeersch did? Or just the aftermath?

I remember the 2017 Giro stage 3, where Greipel had made the split, was next to a Quickstep rider in the front echelon... and suddenly he bumped sideways and was out of the echelon and Gaviria won the stage.

I'm not saying what Vermeersch did was basically the sort of tricks that lots of Belgian teams, Quickstep included, pretty much always get up to in echelons, but...
I don't think there is a video of what happened. Apparently Vermeersch did go the the team bus of DQS later to apologize so I'm guessing he knows himself that what he did was 100% correct, or he doesn't want to step on the toes of the big fanbase that Remco has too much.
 
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Is there video of what Vermeersch did? Or just the aftermath?

I remember the 2017 Giro stage 3, where Greipel had made the split, was next to a Quickstep rider in the front echelon... and suddenly he bumped sideways and was out of the echelon and Gaviria won the stage.

I'm not saying what Vermeersch did was basically the sort of tricks that lots of Belgian teams, Quickstep included, pretty much always get up to in echelons, but...
I keep on seeing Vermeersch's name come up in perhaps not the most glowing way ... helping "create" a crash, interesting tactics in road or cx, etc. Was it Vermeersch who has also sat on van Aert's wheel in a 2nd or 3rd group but still sprinted (for 10th or something)?

Anyhow, I get the general sense that there be bad blood in them there ranks
 
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No, no. To be as respectful and well-mannered as Rogla is to be dishonest. Can't have that!
That's honest as well, because that's his character. Evenepoel is different, arrogant at times - but I consider this honest as well. There are too many people that pretend they are nice guys but aren't and then find some way to BS their way out, just for commercial purposes. When you're totally upset at times, at least be straightforward about it. It's not that he physically attacked the guy or anything really bad, he just confronted him about what he did. Fair enough.
 
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What disturbing me about Sagan is that he keep falling and was at the wrong side of the echelon. Never used to happen to him.
 
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I don't think there is a video of what happened. Apparently Vermeersch did go the the team bus of DQS later to apologize so I'm guessing he knows himself that what he did was 100% correct, or he doesn't want to step on the toes of the big fanbase that Remco has too much.

not sure he went there to apologize - not according to the Belgian newspapers from today at least:

(deepl translated) Vermeersch did not react to the allegations, but five minutes later knocked on Evenepoel's door in the bus parking lot. They had a conciliatory conversation, after which hands were shaken twice. Evenepoel did not want to respond, Vermeersch did. "I ride to the front, the wind comes from the left and so the group makes a swish to the right, causing Remco to ride into my rear wheel. I don't think I can do anything about that. I learned: when you ride into someone's rear wheel, you're at fault. Remco said I was riding too nervously, but everyone was racing nervously." That opinion is also held by Vermeersch's team manager Christoph Roodhooft. "Remco rides into the back wheel of Gianni and loses some spokes from his front wheel because of it. Then you have to beat yourself up and not yell at another rider."
 
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Guys, my friends just told me they're taking me to Belgium on the weekend for my bachelor party.

And I was like: "do you know there's going to be the Benelux Tour?"
"No, not really"
"We need to go!"
"Yeah but the plan is to hit breweries and pubs and nightclubs..."
"The plan has changed"

So, does anybody know if there will be restrictions to access the Muur and roughly at what time they'll start the first lap? Being there would be super cool but we have a plane to catch on Sunday afternoon.
 
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Guys, my friends just told me they're taking me to Belgium on the weekend for my bachelor party.

And I was like: "do you know there's going to be the Benelux Tour?"
"No, not really"
"We need to go!"
"Yeah but the plan is to hit breweries and pubs and nightclubs..."
"The plan has changed"

So, does anybody know if there will be restrictions to access the Muur and roughly at what time they'll start the first lap? Being there would be super cool but we have a plane to catch on Sunday afternoon.


Around 3:30 pm, it seems like. I don't know about restrictions.
 
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That's honest as well, because that's his character. Evenepoel is different, arrogant at times - but I consider this honest as well. There are too many people that pretend they are nice guys but aren't and then find some way to BS their way out, just for commercial purposes. When you're totally upset at times, at least be straightforward about it. It's not that he physically attacked the guy or anything really bad, he just confronted him about what he did. Fair enough.
Yeah, thats a Froome classic and one of the many reasons why I didnt really like that guy.
 
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Yeah, thats a Froome classic and one of the many reasons why I didnt really like that guy.

So you just decided yourself that Froome couldn't be nice even though he acted like he was all the time? How did you come to that conclusion? A coinflip?
 
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So you just decided yourself that Froome couldn't be nice even though he acted like he was all the time? How did you come to that conclusion? A coinflip?
I think it was when he began dominating and especially dominating very conservatively that I decided that he could not be a good human being and therefore his image of a happy little british schoolboy couldn't be true.
Nah seriously, his interviews have always come across very strange to me. Seemed he tried so hard to be a nice guy, when in reality, Im sure his a cutthroat guy (judging by twitter, YT etc). Could be wrong though.
 
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I think it was when he began dominating and especially dominating very conservatively that I decided that he could not be a good human being and therefore his image of a happy little british schoolboy couldn't be true.
Nah seriously, his interviews have always come across very strange to me. Seemed he tried so hard to be a nice guy, when in reality, Im sure his a cutthroat guy (judging by twitter, YT etc). Could be wrong though.

I have no doubt Froome is/was as competitive as anyone but he's never come across as "not a good human being." Bland? Yep. Parroting the company line? Yep. I'll grant that we can't expect full transparency in sport, and especially cycling, but Froome seems to have remained largely a cool customer, given how long he dominated GTs for the highest-profile team.

I dunno about Remco, seems like blowing your top every time something doesn't go your way won't make too many friends. Although his only tactic seems to be solo attacks so it doesn't matter...
 
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I have no doubt Froome is/was as competitive as anyone but he's never come across as "not a good human being." Bland? Yep. Parroting the company line? Yep. I'll grant that we can't expect full transparency in sport, and especially cycling, but Froome seems to have remained largely a cool customer, given how long he dominated GTs for the highest-profile team.

I dunno about Remco, seems like blowing your top every time something doesn't go your way won't make too many friends. Although his only tactic seems to be solo attacks so it doesn't matter...
The not a good human-part was obviously a joke, I hope that was clear...

Yes, extremely bland probably describes him the best. He went out of his way (again, to me) to be like that and it annoyed me instead of speaking what was actually on his mind. But I get easily annoyed, so theres that.
 
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No live images for B. Thomas, McNulty, Fisher-Black, Sobrero, G. Thomas, Bjerg, Evenepoel, Affini, Moscon, Dumoulin and some other good TT'ers today. That's disappointing.
 
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