Bernal vs. Pogacar vs. Evenepoel

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It's getting pathetic really. In 2018, when Remco was about to sign for Axel, it was "incredible, he might be better than me. I think he is better than me". Remco doesn't sign for for Axel "Remco hasn't proven anything". Every. Two. Months. OG Eddy is Reddy for the retirement home.
And Merckx, since retiring, has made a series of really stupid comments about cyclists. He is as on target as Wiggins was declaring throughout the TT that Roglic was just about to turn on the power and beat Pog. And his declarations at the height of the epo/blood doping era were, quite frankly, utterly disappointing. Merckx is definitely a case of the man not living up to the champion (and I was a huge fan as a kid).
 
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And Merckx, since retiring, has made a series of really stupid comments about cyclists. He is as on target as Wiggins was declaring throughout the TT that Roglic was just about to turn on the power and beat Pog. And his declarations at the height of the epo/blood doping era were, quite frankly, utterly disappointing. Merckx is definitely a case of the man not living up to the champion (and I was a huge fan as a kid).
Yup. Still waiting for Gilbert and van der Poel to win the Tour de France, which he also predicted.
 
Well, I would've considered him the favorite for the Giro based on what I've seen before, but this Tour has been an entirely different level. Evenepoel has a very high base level along with an ITT that enables him to pick off small stage races as if taking candy from a baby, but he'll need to be up there in the high mountains with the likes of Pogacar for 3 weeks if the latter is gonna TT like this.
I think Evenepoel has been running bit hot, same way as Hirschi was at the Tour (boldness and cheeky type of behaviour imho made him fall when in escape group with Kawasaki and Carapaz) It's kinda understandable in young athletes when they enter WT/GT first time and team maybe gives them free role to test some legs and if they have those legs and skillset they eager to show it. But you need kool head too as gt's are so long above anything else. In this light I think Pogi and Bernal are bit more calm and calculating, of course Bernal did not first and foremost had legs this time.

But looking back I think it would not been taking a candy from a baby for Evenepoel in this Tour. Or Giro. But we don't know. Let's hope he recovers well and we may see. It's going to be such a fight and I'm shure DQS can serve nice team if they decide so.
 
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Well, I would've considered him the favorite for the Giro based on what I've seen before, but this Tour has been an entirely different level. Evenepoel has a very high base level along with an ITT that enables him to pick off small stage races as if taking candy from a baby, but he'll need to be up there in the high mountains with the likes of Pogacar for 3 weeks if the latter is gonna TT like this.
That ITT from Pogacar is... Let's call it "worrying", for Evenepoel. I don't know if Pog rode the time trial of his life, or if this is going to be common for him. I think Evenepoel would have given him a run for his money, judging by van Aert's result, but he wouldn't have put any time on Pogacar either.
 
That ITT from Pogacar is... Let's call it "worrying", for Evenepoel. I don't know if Pog rode the time trial of his life, or if this is going to be common for him. I think Evenepoel would have given him a run for his money, judging by van Aert's result, but he wouldn't have put any time on Pogacar either.
I don't think outlying performances like that tend to become the standard for a rider. Also it was the perfect storm with the ITT finishing on top of a steep Cat 1.
 
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You youngsters....you don't think the old farts won't figure out how to beat them? GT racing is about 3 weeks, not just TTs. If a "traditional route" with 2 long tts were the deal we could "assume" Dumo would have won this Tour in retrospect. Evenepoel is hurt and recovering. Bernal is shocked and, hopefully rethinking who he listens to on preparation. Pogacar has a target on his back and will be punished for his success like every winner. If he has a good team he will still be there but he can't count on the JV free ride next time.
It'll be all new next season.
Just as I suspected, people really didn’t understand the magnitude of what Remco had been doing before he crashed.

This rhetoric that he had’t done anything in a GT is silly seeing as he hasn’t even started one so we don’t know what he is capable of at this point.

What we do know is that Pogacar didn’t finish second in the World ITT at 19. Pogacar didn’t win his first classic win at age 19. He didn’t have 51km solo breakaway win in his first WTT event.

Pogacar won Algarve at 20 beating Wout Poels. Remco won Algarve at 20 while setting a record climbing Alto de Foia and beating the World Champion in an ITT.

You are putting way too much faith in Dumoulin as a TTer. The guy nearly quit cycling. Top 10 top 5 TTers atm, which is still strong, but he’s not in the same league as Dennis or Evenepoel in TTing.

The real shame is That we are missing out on a Dennis Evenepoel WC ITT rematch.
 
Just as I suspected, people really didn’t understand the magnitude of what Remco had been doing before he crashed.

This rhetoric that he had’t done anything in a GT is silly seeing as he hasn’t even started one so we don’t know what he is capable of at this point.

What we do know is that Pogacar didn’t finish second in the World ITT at 19. Pogacar didn’t win his first classic win at age 19. He didn’t have 51km solo breakaway win in his first WTT event.

Pogacar won Algarve at 20 beating Wout Poels. Remco won Algarve at 20 while setting a record climbing Alto de Foia and beating the World Champion in an ITT.

You are putting way too much faith in Dumoulin as a TTer. The guy nearly quit cycling. Top 10 top 5 TTers atm, which is still strong, but he’s not in the same league as Dennis or Evenepoel in TTing.

The real shame is That we are missing out on a Dennis Evenepoel WC ITT rematch.
This isn't rhetoric; it's experience. The first big race is the easiest to win. The next time you'll need to work harder/smarter and have a better team, possibly. My comparisons were based on hypothetical ideals, not reality. Reality is when good racers get hurt. Really good racers go for the money and end up with lesser support and find out how good they really are. You seem to think Remco is capable of anything; would he have won this Tour riding for Arkea? UAE?
JV? It's all a guess and next year will be different. Ask Greg Lemond after he got shot.
 
Just as I suspected, people really didn’t understand the magnitude of what Remco had been doing before he crashed.

This rhetoric that he had’t done anything in a GT is silly seeing as he hasn’t even started one so we don’t know what he is capable of at this point.
No, its not silly. Undeniably there is some uncertainty about his recovery. This might very well be a non-issue but we simply don't know for now. That concept of uncertainty potentially leading to surprising outcomes shouldn't really be that hard to grasp.
 

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