Binck BankTour 29 september - 3 october

[johnymax]

I need to rewatch the stage. I was watching on a shitty stream that kept stopping every 30seconds or so. It stopped at 300m to go so I couldn't see the finish, of course

 

[Danskebjerge]

van der Poel gets props for sure still every picture of him in the last fifteen k if not more were close up moto head shots.

They really should do something about this OR just say: Well, that's the bonus you get from taking the initiative.

I noticed there was somebody signalling to the camera bike that it should move away which it did - shortly. A few seconds later it was back in front of van der Poel. It seemed very deliberate. And it was a Benelux home favourite.

 

[tobydawq]

Bad day for the Danes on the roads, in general ...

Well, at least it was a Dane who became national TT champion!

 

[Danskebjerge]

Five or ten years ago it would have been on of the best days for Danish cycling all year. A top 3 in Binck Bank and third for Bjerg in the Giro.

Sure. But today 2-3 big chances of winning a general classification were lost within one hour.

 

[RedheadDane]

Well, at least it was a Dane who became national TT champion!

Actually, four Danes!

Sure. But today 2-3 chances of winning a general classification were lost within one hour.

Who was the third?

 

[tobydawq]

Sure. But today 2-3 chances of winning a general classification were lost within one hour.

Pedersen, Kragh and who else?

Don't say Fuglsang.

 

[Bonimenier]

Who was the third?

Pedersen, SKA and Fuglsang?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Well, at least it was a Dane who became national TT champion!

To be fair it would have been a weird day, if DQS didn't get a single win.

 

[Keram]

I saw in tv guide "cycling" on ES after Giro so I was looking forward I will watch this without knowing results but they are broadcasting WC RR I guess in this hectic cycling times I cant watch everything.

 

[johnymax]

Btw...when did MvDP attack? I started watching around 30km to go and he was already more than a minute ahead.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Actually, four Danes!

Yes, at least one former RR WC got the job done

 

[Bonimenier]

Btw...when did MvDP attack? I started watching around 30km to go and he was already more than a minute ahead.

His first attack was with 75k to go when he bridged the gap to the leading group. With 50k to go he went solo.

 

[rghysens]

Btw...when did MvDP attack? I started watching around 30km to go and he was already more than a minute ahead.

2nd time Muur van geraardsbergen (from75km out, or so)

 

[RedheadDane]

Does anyone have the final GC top-10, with times?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

They really should do something about this OR just say: Well, that's the bonus you get from taking the initiative.

I noticed there was somebody signalling to the camera bike that it should move away which it did - shortly. A few seconds later it was back in front of van der Poel. It seemed very deliberate. And it was a Benelux home favourite.

I'm sorry but all you Danes just sound like sour grapes now.. You do realize Soren Kragh Andersen solo's in the Tour had the same advantage? It's scientifically proven even with motors far away they still provide a little slipstream.

Instead of searching excuses from this kind of ***. You should just say it like it is. SkA and Pedersen *** up when they let Van der Poel go with 75km to go. That was simply arrogance. And that cost them the race

 

[Jagartrott]

Sunweb cost Kragh the overall. They let Trek work alone way too long. In these races, you should go hard on the flats, then ease a bit on the bergs to keep the team together. Then, once the difference is small enough, the leader has to go and form an elite group. They didn't do the former, then the elite group failed to catch MVDP.

 

[RedheadDane]

Instead of searching excuses from this kind of *. You should just say it like it is. SkA and Pedersen * up when they let Van der Poel go with 75km to go. That was simply arrogance. And that cost them the race

But do we know that they let him go - Trek and Sunweb both being like; "Eh, we'll catch him easy-peasy!", or if he was simply too strong/caught them by surprise?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I think that's arrogance. You don't let a guy like that ever go. Do you think if the situation wa sreversed VDP would let go Ska with 75km? That's stupid

 

[tobydawq]

I'm sorry but all you Danes just sound like sour grapes now.. You do realize Soren Kragh Andersen solo's in the Tour had the same advantage? It's scientifically proven even with motors far away they still provide a little slipstream.

Instead of searching excuses from this kind of *. You should just say it like it is. SkA and Pedersen * up when they let Van der Poel go with 75km to go. That was simply arrogance. And that cost them the race

Okay, I don't think this should turn into a nationality issue but Søren Kragh would win those two stages without the motos, no question at all.

Van der Poel would not have made it to the finish today without motos. But it was a brilliant ride by him nonetheless.

 

[RedheadDane]

I think that's arrogance. You don't let a guy like that ever go. Do you think if the situation wa sreversed VDP would let go Ska with 75km? That's stupid

You still haven't answered my question; did they let him go, or was it simply a matter of him either:

1) Being too strong?
B) Catching them by surprise?
III) Some combination?

 

[Danskebjerge]

I'm sorry but all you Danes just sound like sour grapes now.. You do realize Soren Kragh Andersen solo's in the Tour had the same advantage? It's scientifically proven even with motors far away they still provide a little slipstream.

Instead of searching excuses from this kind of *. You should just say it like it is. SkA and Pedersen * up when they let Van der Poel go with 75km to go. That was simply arrogance. And that cost them the race

I don't really care about what "cost them the race". I'm saying that when two riders are fighting for seconds head-to-head then it's not fair to put a motorcycle in front of one of them and not the other.

This is not the same as in a stage in a Grand Tour where it's only about the stage win. It would be comparable to placing a motorcycle in front of Roglic on the last TT in the Tour de France and not doing the same thing for Pogacar.

I don't really see it being a big loss for the viewers if the rule was 20 meters between rider and motorcycle for instance (and then of course the organizers should be able to communicate directly to the producers to give warnings).

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

And I'm calling ***. Just a poor attempt at trying to make anything less of that victory. The motors aren't as close as you think. You know they have a telelens.

Instead of what this should have been, applauding the winner and enjoying the final. I think it's just a poor attempt at hiding frustration that a Dane didn't win. No coincedance it's Danes that bring it up in the topic

 

[Netserk]

Good then that we have the neutral and level headed Dutch to explain the situation.

 

[RedheadDane]

Well, Søren Kragh has gone on the record and said that Van Der Poel was simply too strong today.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Good then that we have the neutral and level headed Dutch to explain the situation.

im sorry but it just pisses me off to much.

You just saw this stage, a 50km solo and an exciting stage. And the first thing you talk about is moto's?? I can't see it loose from their nationality then