BMC in disarray?

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ElChingon said:
What happened to Greg Van Avermaet? I expected more from him, definitely thought he'd be the 2nd card so to speak. :confused:
Been on top form since Strade Bianche and having raced all the classics since then is probably very tired now.
 
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Panda Claws said:
Yeah Gilbert is certainly in disarray for the time being.

It will be fun to see him back at 100% again, I miss the hopelessness.

Actually I am just annoyed because I hate it when outsiders win. I ****in hate freakin Johan Van Summeren since 2011.

Sarcasm?

I was really hoping for more than GVA, but when he couldn't hang on I was thinking the same as killswitch, peaking for too long, and doing a lot of work in races also.
 
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Moviefan1203 said:
Tejay put him in the red zone. ;)

i must admit i was surprised by tejay today, he doesn't has what it takes ot be a GT contender but he was very strong on the latter part of lbl which at his age is pretty good.
 
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Parrulo said:
i must admit i was surprised by tejay today, he doesn't has what it takes ot be a GT contender but he was very strong on the latter part of lbl which at his age is pretty good.
Good ride by TJVG. He shouldn't do Fuglsang's mistake (focusing on GTs) and concentrate on week-long stage races and hilly classics.
 
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killswitch said:
Good ride by TJVG. He shouldn't do Fuglsang's mistake (focusing on GTs) and concentrate on week-long stage races and hilly classics.

indeed, he also did well on the punchy climbs of the first week of the 2010 vuelta but i never thought he would be doing so well in LBL which a completely different beast. granted he vanished after the roche aux faucons but first he did the job of 3 men at the front.
 
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killswitch said:
Good ride by TJVG. He shouldn't do Fuglsang's mistake (focusing on GTs) and concentrate on week-long stage races and hilly classics.

He's only 23, I think to focus on anything just now would be premature. At 23 what do you expect GT riders to have achieved? Sure there are your Ullrichs and Andy Schlecks of the world, but lets let him ride a Tour supporting a GC rider instead of a sprinter and see what happens.
 
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Parrulo said:
i must admit i was surprised by tejay today, he doesn't has what it takes ot be a GT contender but he was very strong on the latter part of lbl which at his age is pretty good.
He is only 23. Let's wait and see what he can do in the future. He could become a good GT rider or he might not. He is showed some potential in one day races and has shown potential in week long stage races. We'll wait and see. Premature to say either way imo.
killswitch said:
Been on top form since Strade Bianche and having raced all the classics since then is probably very tired now.
Yes, he said he was very tired after the race and didn't have good legs. How things change in a week? GVA looked really strong in Amstel.

dlwssonic said:
They were pretty strong in the classics just could not get the win:eek:

Exactly, the team was a major factor in every single major classic and how the race panned out. They were just lacked a bit of luck and some form. I am dissapointed they didn't get the big win in the classics but there are plenty of other big races left which have the potential to make BMC's season a brilliant one.
 
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Lanark said:
Gilbert lost his number 1 spot on the CQ-ranking to Rodriguez. Pretty crazy, to think that at the beginning of this year he had a lead of over 1100 points. Now he's 300 down to Rodriguez.

He had 3435 and JROD has 2884. How is that possible:confused:
 
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greenedge said:
He had 3435 and JROD has 2884. How is that possible:confused:

Its calculated on a one year time frame so Gilbert would lose his points he got from last year ardennes winning etc after the ardennes etc
 
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karlboss said:
Sarcasm?

I was really hoping for more than GVA, but when he couldn't hang on I was thinking the same as killswitch, peaking for too long, and doing a lot of work in races also.

No, I really hate it when outsiders win.

Because when I watch cycling I always hope that the riders I like today will become legends in the future. Every monument won by some guy like freakin Johan Vansummeren who ,let's face it, will not win much more is one less that a guy like Cancellara can win.
 
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iglinskiy is a future legend. only when you are blind you dont'se ethat. this guy didn't win nuyens or vansummeren style. no he was the best rider in the race
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
iglinskiy is a future legend. only when you are blind you dont'se ethat. this guy didn't win nuyens or vansummeren style. no he was the best rider in the race

Perhaps. For the time being he is still an outsider. If he keeps winning Ardennes Classics the coming years then I will have be much more okay with this.

Also, his win itsself was pretty great indeed. Not like Van Summeren's or Nuyens'.
 
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Future legend won 6 races at age 31. Sorry if we don't all believe you here :rolleyes:

His win was great, but he'll never be a legend lol.
 
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Panda Claws said:
No, I really hate it when outsiders win.

Because when I watch cycling I always hope that the riders I like today will become legends in the future. Every monument won by some guy like freakin Johan Vansummeren who ,let's face it, will not win much more is one less that a guy like Cancellara can win.

But that's what's so good about the sport. Iglinsky has always been a strong classics rider without getting the big wins. Liege was always going to be open this year. No surprise about Gilbert. BMC having similar classics season to last year. Plenty of time on the front of the bunch but no win. Nice ride by Nibali but some people are saying he stuffed up by not eating enough. When he got to 45 seconds or so I thought it was all over. Oh well maybe Thor can grab a stage at the Giro and Cadel can do well at Romandie. Saxo and R/Shack are making BMC look pretty good !
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
iglinskiy is a future legend. only when you are blind you dont'se ethat. this guy didn't win nuyens or vansummeren style. no he was the best rider in the race

all the top riders for LBL were doing very badly, he took the opportunity and won LBL while he could. He is a strong rider for the ardennes, but no way will he ever be a legend dude.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
iglinskiy is a future legend. only when you are blind you dont'se ethat. this guy didn't win nuyens or vansummeren style. no he was the best rider in the race

:rolleyes: just because a rider has talent doesnt mean he is a legend.

A lot of other factors come into consideration as well which explains why he has won or rather not won what he has.
 
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El Pistolero said:
Future legend won 6 races at age 31. Sorry if we don't all believe you here :rolleyes:

His win was great, but he'll never be a legend lol.

says the guy who thought gilbert would win lbl :eek: my predictions have coem a lot further than yours so if you don't midn I'll stick with my own
 
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Froome19 said:
:rolleyes: just because a rider has talent doesnt mean he is a legend.

A lot of other factors come into consideration as well which explains why he has won or rather not won what he has.

there are countless examples of riders breaking through at later age. erik dekker for instance. this is his big step up. he has the class and the way to ride like a vino.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
yeah I;m sure you know more about cycling than me :rolleyes:

Define legend. The only cyclists who have made it to legend status in today's peloton are Fabian Cancellara, Tom Boonen and Alberto Contador imo.
 
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El Pistolero said:
Define legend. The only cyclists who have made it to legend status in today's peloton are Fabian Cancellara, Tom Boonen and Alberto Contador imo.

boonen is not a legend. contador, cancellara, vino. those are legends. I should've said could become a future legend iglisnkiy. but he at least has all the tools. I remember how people were mad at contador winning the tour 2007 because he was a no-name. they had to eat there words later.
 
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Contador was also 24 years old at the time and already won Paris-Nice and the Vuelta a Castilla y Leon. Outclimbed the likes of Evans in the Tour de Romandie at age 23. Totally not comparable.

Vino is not even good enough to clean Boonen's shoes I'm afraid. Boonen is a legend because he has the most wins in both the Ronde van Vlaanderen and Paris-Roubaix.

Your example, Erik Dekker, is a fine rider, but by no means is he a legend.
 
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you are not a legend simply because by winning races alone. it's more the whole aura surrounding it. pantani is one of the biggest cycling legends of all time. and not because he won the tour 7 times or so