BMC Suspend Ballan and Santambroggio

[Mellow Velo]

ACF's worst nightmare has come to pass.
BMC have confirmed that both riders are suspended with immediate effect, pending investigations into their alledged involvement in 'shady goings on', dating back a couple of years, when they were both with Lampre.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ballan-and-santambrogio-pulled-from-racing

 

[python]

let's see if the shack will follow the lampre example and suspends the 7 (when identified by the french investigation) whose dna is being matched as we speak.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

ACF's worst nightmare has come to pass.
BMC have confirmed that both riders are suspended with immediate effect, pending investigations into their alledged involvement in 'shady goings on', dating back a couple of years, when they were both with Lampre.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ballan-and-santambrogio-pulled-from-racing

Surely that should be "ACFs second worst nightmare"?

But of course this investigation will go nowhere - its not like the old days (in 2006), we now have the Biological Passport, the sport is clean.

 

[ak-zaaf]

Dunno if this was posted yet. Got this list from a Dutch forum, it sources Gazzetta Dello Sport. These should be the people involved:

Giuseppe Saronni, Manager Lampre, oud-coureur
Maurizio Piovanni, directeur sportif Lampre
Fabrizio Bontempi, directeur sportif Lampre, oud-coureur bij Mapei enBrescialat
Damiano Cunego, coureur Lampre
Alessandro Ballan, coureur BMC Racing, ex-Lampre
Mirco Lorenzetto, coureur Lampre
Manuele Mori, coureur Lampre
Massimiliano Mori, coureur Lampre
Emanuele Bindi, ex-coureur Lampre
Francesco Gavazzi, coureur Lampre
Daniele Pietropolli, coureur Lampre
Mauro Santambrogio, coureur BMC Racing, ex-Lampre
Simone Ponzi, coureur Lampre
Pietro Caucchioli, ex-coureur Lampre
Mauro Da Dalto, coureur Lampre
Carlo Guardascione, arts Lampre
Andrea Andreazzoli, arts Astana, ex-Lampre
José Ibarguren, ex-arts Lampre en Saunier Duval
Fabio Telladorre, fysio Lampre
Paolo Pezzini, ex-coureur
Stefano Cavallari, ex-coureur Acqua & Sapone

 

[auscyclefan94]

Interesting that baldato came over from lampre last year with Santambrogio and ballan as a ds and raced with lampre in 08. Is he involved?

Very happy actually mellow velo. I am all for clean cycling. Good move by bmc to indefinetly suspend them. They had to do it and i would not be right if they didn't.

EDIT: Just relised it was from 2 years ago when baldato was riding for lampre. Interesting...

 

[tubularglue]

The biological passport was launched at the end of October 2007 by the UCI, why did it not pick up on the discrepancies ?

 

[IntheMidwest]

The biological passport was launched at the end of October 2007 by the UCI, why did it not pick up on the discrepancies ?

Because it's more of a marketing thing than an anti-doping thing.......

 

[L'arriviste]

CN.com might want to take Ballan out of their possible favourites for Roubaix:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/paris-roubaix-favourites-for-the-crown

"Why he can't win: his team have suspended him."

Somebody was only saying on this forum the other day that there might be a more sinister reason for him doing nothing much this year so far... On verra

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Interesting that baldato came over from lampre last year with Santambrogio and ballan as a ds and raced with lampre in 08. Is he involved?

Very happy actually mellow velo. I am all for clean cycling. Good move by bmc to indefinitely suspend them. They had to do it and i would not be right if they didn't.

EDIT: Just relised it was from 2 years ago when baldato was riding for lampre. Interesting...

Kindof sortof..... They didn't have to do it, how many from Lampre are 'inactive'?

John Lelangue probably spoke to his ex-colleagues in ASO - cut the 2 riders loose and your participation in the Tour is ok.

This is what happened in 2006 with T-Mobile, with the sponsors threatening to pull out because of Puerto Ullrich had to take one for the team while the rest went to Freiburg!

The good news is that a precedent has now been set by BMC - expect Lampre to fold.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Kindof sortof..... They didn't have to do it, how many from Lampre are 'inactive'?

John Lelangue probably spoke to his ex-colleagues in ASO - cut the 2 riders loose and your participation in the Tour is ok.

This is what happened in 2006 with T-Mobile, with the sponsors threatening to pull out because of Puerto Ullrich had to take one for the team while the rest went to Freiburg!

The good news is that a precedent has now been set by BMC - expect Lampre to fold.

I certainly do feel like jumping off a bridge but so does cadel probabaly!

What are you guys thoughts on baldato?

 

[tubularglue]

http://translate.google.com/transla...ng-ciclismo-non-credibile-1602795067568.shtml

"Cycling is a sick man, very serious, is a sport which can no longer believe. It says on the basis of a long series of converging evidence and depressing: "In a stage race no athlete could be in groups if they did not use substances.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

The biological passport was launched at the end of October 2007 by the UCI, why did it not pick up on the discrepancies ?

Here is what the UCI has said about the latest investigation.

 

[tubularglue]

As we type, money is being wired across vast oceans.

 

[auscyclefan94]

As we type, money is being wired across vast oceans.

 

[Ferminal]

Dunno if this was posted yet. Got this list from a Dutch forum, it sources Gazzetta Dello Sport. These should be the people involved:

Giuseppe Saronni, Manager Lampre, oud-coureur
Maurizio Piovanni, directeur sportif Lampre
Fabrizio Bontempi, directeur sportif Lampre, oud-coureur bij Mapei enBrescialat
Damiano Cunego, coureur Lampre
Alessandro Ballan, coureur BMC Racing, ex-Lampre
Mirco Lorenzetto, coureur Lampre
Manuele Mori, coureur Lampre
Massimiliano Mori, coureur Lampre
Emanuele Bindi, ex-coureur Lampre
Francesco Gavazzi, coureur Lampre
Daniele Pietropolli, coureur Lampre
Mauro Santambrogio, coureur BMC Racing, ex-Lampre
Simone Ponzi, coureur Lampre
Pietro Caucchioli, ex-coureur Lampre
Mauro Da Dalto, coureur Lampre
Carlo Guardascione, arts Lampre
Andrea Andreazzoli, arts Astana, ex-Lampre
José Ibarguren, ex-arts Lampre en Saunier Duval
Fabio Telladorre, fysio Lampre
Paolo Pezzini, ex-coureur
Stefano Cavallari, ex-coureur Acqua & Sapone

Well at least it's not systematic doping - just a few bad apples.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Well at least it's not systematic doping - just a few bad apples.

just those few rotten apples!

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I see Pietro Caucchioli is in there - he was one of the 'Famous Five' "caught" by the Biological Passport!

Repeat after me.... The Biological Passport works, The Biological Passport works!!

 

[auscyclefan94]

I see Pietro Caucchioli is in there - he was one of the 'Famous Five' "caught" by the Biological Passport!

Repeat after me.... The Biological Passport works, The Biological Passport works!!

Patty M has been chanting that for the past 2 years!

 

[Bala Verde]

Andrea Andreazzoli, dottor Astana...

Who hired this guy at Astana?

 

[bobbins]

Surely the most obvious sign of a possible doper is them riding a BMC!!

 

[auscyclefan94]

Surely the most obvious sign of a possible doper is them riding a BMC!!

Beautifully Made Cera

Ballan Mocks Cera

Ballan Masturbates over Cera (the girl's name)

 

[Digger]

After 06, I thought changes were going to come about. that has really worked out.
Ullrich met Kloden and Vino in Jan of 07, whilst training. He had been considering a comeback, because he thought changes had come about. It became evident from talking with his buddies, that nothing had changed. He felt it too risky, and retired. Three years later, I don't see how the sport has progressed one jot.

 

[auscyclefan94]

After 06, I thought changes were going to come about. that has really worked out.
Ullrich met Kloden and Vino in Jan of 07, whilst training. He had been considering a comeback, because he thought changes had come about. It became evident from talking with his buddies, that nothing had changed. He felt it too risky, and retired. Three years later, I don't see how the sport has progressed one jot.

i do see your point but lots of cheats have been/are gradually being kicked out.

 

[Digger]

i do see your point but lots of cheats have been/are gradually being kicked out.

Frank Schleck, Alberto, Valverde, Cancellara, Basso is back, Vino is back, Rassmussen is back, Ricco is back, Lance is back - EXACTLY who is it that's gone? Kohl, and the only reason he was caught, is down to AFLD, and not the UCI. Even Stefan is due back this year.

 

[ak-zaaf]

Beautifully Made Cera

Ballan Mocks Cera

Ballan Masturbates over Cera (the girl's name)

And within a month: Ballan Medicated Cadel