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TRDean said:
The testing the IOC will do will show she has a fully developed penis!!

There have been very unfortunate false disqualifications in track&field over gender quentions. Most unattractive women, running extremely fast. Now at least, unions should have the knowledge how to handle this. Seems IAAF is handling this capably.

Then, this young girl is obviously talented, and not even breaking world records. Furthermore, being doing-tested at 2009 levels. Always been a talent.
Why question? I've been seriously undersood by people to be gay, just because I speak well, am kind, and can talk well with women. Tests have shown otherwise. So, she's not the most beautiful woman then. How many women in Berlin competition actually do have a bra size? Modern training seems to leave little room for any female development anyway. Or, exclude feminim women genetically from running fast, and jumping far/high.

Don't underestimate the psycholigical implications of being labeled the wrong sexe. Very unhealthy. Let's just wait, and hope she's sincere.

Any guy cyclist on here will lost an arm wrestling match from any women's Berlin competitor anyway. Most of us have more man-boob than the average woman there. If you want to be a tough guy, be nice to women, and look out for them not being disadvantaged.
 
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Anyone here that suggests Bolt is doping clearly hates running. In fact you probably hate any form of human movement. He's 6'5'' for crying out loud. There have never been any tall men that have tried their hand at sprinting before Bolt. Just wait till a 7' tall man tries to sprint. The 8 sec barrier will finally be broken.
 
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patswana said:
Anyone here that suggests Bolt is doping clearly hates running. In fact you probably hate any form of human movement. He's 6'5'' for crying out loud. There have never been any tall men that have tried their hand at sprinting before Bolt. Just wait till a 7' tall man tries to sprint. The 8 sec barrier will finally be broken.

Wow, wait a minute. Can't we wait for the 9.5 and then the 9.0 second barriers to be broken before we jump to 8.0 seconds? If height alone is responsible for an improvement of 0.3 seconds, then I hardly think another few inches in height is going to translate to a 1.6 second improvement over 100 m (assuming [incorrectly] all other factors are equal).
 
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sherer said:
the difference between this one and the other unattractive women is they don't have facial hair

And what difference does it make in this context? You mean that you have never seen a woman with facial hair?
 
elapid said:
Wow, wait a minute. Can't we wait for the 9.5 and then the 9.0 second barriers to be broken before we jump to 8.0 seconds? If height alone is responsible for an improvement of 0.3 seconds, then I hardly think another few inches in height is going to translate to a 1.6 second improvement over 100 m (assuming [incorrectly] all other factors are equal).

Not only that but there are plenty of tall guys in the NFL and they can't start that quickly. That's been the the physical limitation Bolt is apparently overcoming as well as maintaining the stride of a great 400m runner. Find me a 7' that could run and Kobe Bryant would be sitting on the bench.
 
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Cloxxki said:
There have been very unfortunate false disqualifications in track&field over gender quentions. Most unattractive women, running extremely fast. Now at least, unions should have the knowledge how to handle this. Seems IAAF is handling this capably.

Then, this young girl is obviously talented, and not even breaking world records. Furthermore, being doing-tested at 2009 levels. Always been a talent.
Why question? I've been seriously undersood by people to be gay, just because I speak well, am kind, and can talk well with women. Tests have shown otherwise. So, she's not the most beautiful woman then. How many women in Berlin competition actually do have a bra size? Modern training seems to leave little room for any female development anyway. Or, exclude feminim women genetically from running fast, and jumping far/high.

Don't underestimate the psycholigical implications of being labeled the wrong sexe. Very unhealthy. Let's just wait, and hope she's sincere.

Any guy cyclist on here will lost an arm wrestling match from any women's Berlin competitor anyway. Most of us have more man-boob than the average woman there. If you want to be a tough guy, be nice to women, and look out for them not being disadvantaged.

Just a joke...lighten up francis!!!
 
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Anyone here that suggests he is doping clearly hates cycling. In fact you probably hate any form of human movement. He lost weight for crying out loud. There have never been any light men that have tried their hand at climbing & TTing before him. Look at his cadence. Just wait till a lighter man tries. The 8 TdFs barrier will finally be broken.
 
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patswana said:
Anyone here that suggests Bolt is doping clearly hates running. In fact you probably hate any form of human movement. He's 6'5'' for crying out loud. There have never been any tall men that have tried their hand at sprinting before Bolt. Just wait till a 7' tall man tries to sprint. The 8 sec barrier will finally be broken.

Yeah we hate cycling and running and the world. Thats why we follow sports. I think you better go back to Botswana, eh patswana and inform yourself of Doping in sports.

P.S.: For all pipo here, that are living in the real world: I was there again yesterday, i expected it. Still the gap and record was un-real. What is he on? I heard Kelli White in 2003 was on Epo, and she could not believe how EASY it was. I wish the Days back when King Carl was running. Seems those were the days when Dope was not as heavy as nowadays. The records were broken by around 0,01-0,03 Seconds. I think we wont see athlets that can have a long career like Carl (16 years). Because those new heavy drugs stop them all before they are 30 (either by positive tests, or the drugs have killed their bodies).

I bet Bolt is done latest by 2012.
 
FoxxyBrown1111 said:
Yeah we hate cycling and running and the world. Thats why we follow sports. I think you better go back to Botswana, eh patswana and inform yourself of Doping in sports.

P.S.: For all pipo here, that are living in the real world: I was there again yesterday, i expected it. Still the gap and record was un-real. What is he on? I heard Kelli White in 2003 was on Epo, and she could not believe how EASY it was. I wish the Days back when King Carl was running. Seems those were the days when Dope was not as heavy as nowadays. The records were broken by around 0,01-0,03 Seconds. I think we wont see athlets that can have a long career like Carl (16 years). Because those new heavy drugs stop them all before they are 30 (either by positive tests, or the drugs have killed their bodies).

I bet Bolt is done latest by 2012.

Unfortunately King Carl was also at it. And the 1988 100m final turned out to be a dope fest, eventhough Ben was the fall guy.
 
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Digger said:
Unfortunately King Carl was also at it. And the 1988 100m final turned out to be a dope fest, eventhough Ben was the fall guy.

As you saw in my post, i made a difference between light Doping then (ephidrine etc.) and the way it is heavy now. I didnt say Lewis was clean.

Just look at Greene, Griffith-Joyner, Gatlin, Montgomery etc. etc. How long did they last? Those heavy doping nowadays dont allow long careers.

I go with Voet here: Its the same in cycling as he said; The drugs before Epo got the best out of the athlete, since Epo, the drugs created whole new Athlets. Or Peter Winnen: The results since Epo are not real anymore. He stopped caring about them. Its the same way with Track & Field now.

The way Bolt dominates now, it seems clear he would win in a clean field. But not 9,58/19,19, more like 9,9/19,8. I really recommend the Kelli White story. Its too easy now, and since 2003 the drugs even improved.

No way i saw a natural Races in the Stadium. But as i said before: Last Sunday and yesterday, the crowd was great. It was worth it.
 
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
As you saw in my post, i made a difference between light Doping then (ephidrine etc.) and the way it is heavy now. I didnt say Lewis was clean.

Just look at Greene, Griffith-Joyner, Gatlin, Montgomery etc. etc. How long did they last? Those heavy doping nowadays dont allow long careers.

I go with Voet here: Its the same in cycling as he said; The drugs before Epo got the best out of the athlete, since Epo, the drugs created whole new Athlets. Or Peter Winnen: The results since Epo are not real anymore. He stopped caring about them. Its the same way with Track & Field now.

The way Bolt dominates now, it seems clear he would win in a clean field. But not 9,58/19,19, more like 9,9/19,8. I really recommend the Kelli White story. Its too easy now, and since 2003 the drugs even improved.

No way i saw a natural Races in the Stadium. But as i said before: Last Sunday and yesterday, the crowd was great. It was worth it.

Never been to a world class track event...how freakin fast do those guys look in person?
 
FoxxyBrown1111 said:
As you saw in my post, i made a difference between light Doping then (ephidrine etc.) and the way it is heavy now. I didnt say Lewis was clean.
Just look at Greene, Griffith-Joyner, Gatlin, Montgomery etc. etc. How long did they last? Those heavy doping nowadays dont allow long careers.

I go with Voet here: Its the same in cycling as he said; The drugs before Epo got the best out of the athlete, since Epo, the drugs created whole new Athlets. Or Peter Winnen: The results since Epo are not real anymore. He stopped caring about them. Its the same way with Track & Field now.

The way Bolt dominates now, it seems clear he would win in a clean field. But not 9,58/19,19, more like 9,9/19,8. I really recommend the Kelli White story. Its too easy now, and since 2003 the drugs even improved.

No way i saw a natural Races in the Stadium. But as i said before: Last Sunday and yesterday, the crowd was great. It was worth it.

I see what you mean. And I agree with you, especially in relation to what Voet said. EPO was the single biggest development to ever occur in cycling. For that reason I don't know who was and wasn't genuinely talented. EPO turned mules into racehorses, and no other drug, prior to it, had this much power.
 
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TRDean said:
Never been to a world class track event...how freakin fast do those guys look in person?

You dont see the difference between a 10,5 and 9,5. Its just the gaps on top of top of top of world-class athletes that look abnormal. A track meet is like a American-Football-Match: Boring at times but highly emotional and special at other times. So, much beer is needed ;)
 
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Digger said:
I see what you mean. And I agree with you, especially in relation to what Voet said. EPO was the single biggest development to ever occur in cycling. For that reason I don't know who was and wasn't genuinely talented. EPO turned mules into racehorses, and no other drug, prior to it, had this much power.

Yes EPO spoiled cycling and track, swimming etc. I only can remember of one other drug that killed sports: Steroids, that came up in the mid-70s, in Power-Sports (Football etc.) and which turned Women turned into Men (I dont only mean that south african 800m-"Girl", but all those Jamaica-"Women"-Runners).
 
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
I only can remember of one other drug that killed sports: Steroids, that came up in the mid-70s, in Power-Sports (Football etc.) and which turned Women turned into Men (I dont only mean that south african 800m-"Girl", but all those Jamaica-"Women"-Runners).
What's the key to telling to difference between women on steroids and women who have built up their muscles naturally?
 
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Oldman said:
Have some forensic evidence. Go to Babes on Bikes forum and look up Tammy's picture. I'm apologizing in advance for the emotional scarring....pictures tell the story.
Tammy Thomas twice tested positive. To the best of my knowledge, none of the Jamaican women running at this year's championships have. Like I said, something a bit more scientific.

I'd also say, more subjectively, that they lack the androgynous appearance of Thomas in that photo. As I asked before, what am I meant to be looking for that makes it so obvious?