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IainMc said:If Brailsford can't embrace pro cycling warts and all, he should stand down before he does any more damage. Guys like Jonathan Vaughters are the future.
Dear Wiggo said:And what is it that past dopers can bring to the table that past non-dopers can't?
You worry too much, IainMc - while Bjarne runs a team, there's no such risk...IainMc said:I'm not saying that past dopers don't deserve some sort of punishment, I just believe that those who have come clean have a part to play in sorting out the mess they helped to create. You could even argue that guys like Millar have done more good than harm in the long run. If Brailsford's utopia is taken up by many other team managers I think we have more to lose than gain. And of course in that utopia a great number of managers would also have to resign.
Crusader said:Dave Brailsford is doing a fine job at Sky. There are strict anti-doping policies in place. Getting rid of those who have skeleton's in the closet in relation to doping is part of that regime. Sky's no nonsense approach is sending out a clear message that zero tolerance will be shown to those who violate their anti-doping policies.
dolophonic said:Puritanical..that's the way to do it ..![]()
Ferminal said:Not knowing half his management had been involved with doping at some stage of their career suggests incompetence, but otherwise he's doing a good job.
Crusader said:Dave Brailsford is doing a fine job at Sky. There are strict anti-doping policies in place. Getting rid of those who have skeleton's in the closet in relation to doping is part of that regime. Sky's no nonsense approach is sending out a clear message that zero tolerance will be shown to those who violate their anti-doping policies.
RichWalk said:You could say he's been naive, he could argue he's had the proverbial rug pulled from beneath his feet; whatever the current situation, Sky claimed the aim was to have a clean 'team' and win the Tour, they clearly didnt.
To imply a man of Brailsfords acumen had no knowledge that cyclists dope and still do, is a stretch for even the most optimistic cycling observer. Whatever the actual reality was times have changed dramatically since their inception and the back peddaling measures are now in full effect at Sky.
Their zero tolerance stance can be construed in many ways however at least they are making some sort of stand and not staying silent like most other teams.
I'm not arguing this means a clean team but rather cycling has to start somewhere, this is Sky/Brailsford approach.
From my point of view guys like Brailsford as team managers need to start pushing real world ideas out there as to how doping will be minimised; reduced stage distances, much tougher bans for riders and team managment and the points system being based upon a teams performance rather than individual riders are some worth exploring...........get to it if you want to stay and make a difference!
Ferminal said:Brailsford is just running a team, it's not his job to worry about how the sport is going to clean itself up. Sky can win in a clean or dirty sport and that's what he has to worry about. Brailsford doesn't have the emotional commitment to improving the sport like a Vaughters does.
I don't see why Sky should be any more or less of a leader on this than any other team, if Movistar and OPQS aren't stepping up why should Sky? Just focus on doing the job.
Franklin said:Indeed! That's why they hired a guy who has been judged accomplish to doping fraud
Really, the amount of drivel the apologists post is beyond ridiculous.
The guy willingly and knowingly took in a very dodgy doctor. Every move he makes now is beyond hypocritical due to that fact. No amount of cheering and spinning from the apologists can change history.
Like Brad who claimed he never rode against LA, DB now wants to turn back the clock. Too bad he has been exposed![]()