I'm just glad I'll never have to see that ridiculous pistolera thing again. I doubt he will use it no matter what happens.
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Unfortunately I think we're in for a long legal process as Contador and his team will use every avenue they can to make this go away. Bad for him is the percentage of riders who've successfully dodged the doping axe is extremely small. Also, the Spanish Federation has ZERO creditability when it comes to doping with Operation Puerto and 6 or 7 riders recently nabbed. You will find very few riders sticking up for AC because they're concerned about their own survival, and suspicion of Alberto being on something was talked about frequently in the peloton.
Derukeman said:
He might shoot himself in the foot. If he admits, gets his 2 years, he'll be riding again in 2012 (if any team takes him). If he drags this out for one or two years and get a ban in the end, he might not be back until 2013 or 2014 even.
Anyway, has anyone seen his blood passport values? There's been some rumors that it's pretty messed up. I'd really like to see it for the last few years.
Agreed.
The UCI is really in a sh*t situation now. They can't get away from banning AC without looking soft, and they can't ban AC without opening their own can of worms as to their history of dealing with positive tests.
Beautiful! Timing is everything!
The UCI is really in a sh*t situation now. They can't get away from banning AC without looking soft, and they can't ban AC without opening their own can of worms as to their history of dealing with positive tests.
Beautiful! Timing is everything!
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I hope he quits honestly. His statements the last few days have turned bicycling into a circus. His story is the biggest bs story I've ever heard in my life. He is really talented and I respected his efforts during the last tour, but I'm far from a fan of his.
even if he is cleared, his credibility is shot. pantani couldn't handle it - it's too much pressure and contador isn't lance - it will get to him. he'll never win the Tour again i reckon - regardless of whether the UCI sanction him or not.
Technically, he is only down to get sanctioned for the clenbutarol.
The plasticizers issue is not on the table as far as a sanctionable offense.
These latest accusations, even though many feel are the death knell for Contador, are just that-accusations.
Since we don't know who made them, how is the UCI supposed to move forward with this? How are they supposed to find out who this person is when he spoke to this magazine on the basis of anonymity?
The plasticizers issue is not on the table as far as a sanctionable offense.
These latest accusations, even though many feel are the death knell for Contador, are just that-accusations.
Since we don't know who made them, how is the UCI supposed to move forward with this? How are they supposed to find out who this person is when he spoke to this magazine on the basis of anonymity?
There's really nothing to argue about, it's two years for Clen and he should move on, take it like a man and cut his losses, the more wriggling he does the deeper he goes (plasticizers, Astana co-rider, etc...)...
Cobblestones said:
Yeah, where's the leak for these?
and better yet, get them to these guys first:
http://www.sportsscientists.com/
The analysis would be fascinating in a somewhat unfortunate and negative way.
I'll feel kinda like a rubbernecker at a car crash, but I'll read it just the same.
Berzin said:
1 - as he has tested posative for clen ... it is up to him to prove circumstances etc which can reduce his sentence.
2 - as the blood doping theory is just as plausable (if not more so) as his meat contamination theory, its (IMO) pretty unlikely that the UCI will be able to reduce the sentence without raising further eyebrows with WADA and other agencies
3 - as for the latest claims ... the UCI doesnt have to prove them. They dont have to take them into consideration. They already have him being tested posative. They can look at all other evidence, circumstances and inneundo as much as they like to consider the likelihood of his claim of contamination versus the likelihood of doping and blood transfusions
My guess - they will strip the TdF '10 and give him the full ban (at least I hope so) if only to make themselves look better in the lead up to the full Lance fiasco and dirty details to be revealed from that.
In a new interview at El Mundo (second biggest newspaper in Spain) Contador says that he is "thinking in quitting even if he is declared innocent". http://estaticos.elmundo.es/documentos/2010/10/12/portada.pdf
Not sure it's an interview, rather an interpretation of past comments or the comments given by soemone close to Contador.
Adamastor said:
Yes, my fault. I was following the story through another site, but I did not have access to the pay-per-view articles at El Mundo, so I just put the frontpage.
The news are that Contador actually would have said so to Carlos Castano, the president of the Spanish Cycling Federation.http://www.libertaddigital.com/deportes/contador-abatido-estoy-pensando-en-dejar-el-ciclismo-1276404160/
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Vonn Brinkman said:
He won't come close to winning a Tour in a clean peloton. He relies on dope. He's too mentally weak without it.
buckwheat
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rzombie1988 said:
Turned bicycling into a circus? It's more like Contador joined the circus.
The problem, which many seem to have missed, is that with all the doping going on, we have absolutely no idea whether he is talented or not. None, nada...
Have you seen a top level doping schedule? These guys are freaks and that's not even a strong enough word.
buckwheat said:
I don't think you're mentally weak if you won your last 5 Grand Tours you entered doped or not.
One can for example insult Armstrong of many things, but mentally weak?
El Pistolero said:
It's a good and telling point. Are competitors that completely focused and personally identified with winning an event more susceptible to justifying the use of PEDs? It's debatable whether the more sociopathic atheletes create the justification first and then feel comfortable with their position in their world. Aside from the outward behavior; Contador and Armstrong may be very similar in their inner ethics.
El Pistolero said:
Contador is mentally weak. All the crybaby stuff about how he was mis-treated by Armstrong/Bruyneel. Come on Alberto showed how strong he was when he smoked the field on the first signifigent climb. 2009 race over at that point.
Secondly he never ever should have apologized on You-tube to Andy. weakness. arm and arm with Andy on a mountain top finish, weakness.
Now threatening to quit when he can have a nice 2 year vacation in Spain with his girlfriend. He can even pal around the med with vaLV-PITI.
What could be finer, why quit now Alberto?
flicker said:
Based on your attitude towards AC dealling with AS... I'm starting to like you more and more. I really liked the 'face in the dirt' comment the other day! Maybe those crayons haven't infected you too badly...
Could be that he quits, but I doubt it would be permanent. Maybe for 2 years or so, until a team with a "completely different approach" (and a big fat paycheck) comes along (most likely Movistar) and then Conti will be more than happy to start over new!
El Pistolero said:
i don't know if i would say he's mentally weak but he doesn't seem to have that killer instinct, that all consuming drive to be the best like some of the all time greats have had (not just talking about cycling but sports in general), people who achieve the greatest results in sports are usually not just very talented but also incredibely driven (people like Michael Jordan, Merckx, Nadal)and usually assholes as well
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