British politics

[nevele neves]

Re:

https://communemag.com/were-being-played/

The milkshake crowd in the UK are not the fools in Antifa.

 

[macbindle]

UK too desperate to secure US trade deal, says Clinton's treasury secretary

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/06/brexit-clinton-treasury-secretary-larry-summers-dismisses-desperate-uk-hopes-of-us-trade-deal?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Speaking the absolute f'kin obvious.

Of course Trump is encouraging Brexit. Who wouldn't try to manoeuvre a trading partner into a weaker position?

 

[macbindle]

https://www.facebook.com/756710421158676/posts/1305271052969274/

 

[King Boonen]

Nigel Farage doesn’t like Meghan. I’m shocked I tell you, shocked.

I’m not a fan of the Royal family, but if we have to give them money can we just give it all to Harry and Meghan please?

 

[Archibald]

Nigel Farage doesn’t like Meghan. I’m shocked I tell you, shocked.

I’m not a fan of the Royal family, but if we have to give them money can we just give it all to Harry and Meghan please?

for more palace upgrades?

 

[King Boonen]

for more palace upgrades?

Pretty much anything they do it going to annoy Farage and his ilk so I'll leave it in their hands.

 

[aphronesis]

This seems more realistic than Trump being impeached as the entire country, political class have rolled over for the institution of "the office"

Here’s How Boris Johnson Can Be Defeated

With clear and inclusive class politics, the Left can unite the victims of Tory austerity and beat Boris Johnson at the polls.

www.jacobinmag.com

 

[nevele neves]

Nigel Farage doesn’t like Meghan. I’m shocked I tell you, shocked.

I’m not a fan of the Royal family, but if we have to give them money can we just give it all to Harry and Meghan please?

Wasn't it Harry that killed all the civilians in Afgan from the Helicopter? They already get money and a lifestyle.

 

[nevele neves]

Maybe France should do more?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49443154

 

[macbindle]

Maybe you should educate yourself a little more before you start with the dog whistle stuff.

The truth about… refugees

It's not about economic improvement - it is about life and liberty. Here are six truths about refugees.

www.amnesty.org.uk

 

[nevele neves]

You obviously did not even read the news article.

Why do you have to tell someone to educate themselves or accuse someone of something with your posts?
It is better to be more polite in order to discuss things in the real world.

 

[macbindle]

I did read the article, and because you are entirely transparent I knew exactly why you posted it and where you wanted to go with it, so I just cut out the middleman.

Read the Amnesty article about refugee numbers.

 

[King Boonen]

Wasn't it Harry that killed all the civilians in Afgan from the Helicopter? They already get money and a lifestyle.

Struggling to see the relevance to my post...

 

[King Boonen]

I did read the article, and because you are entirely transparent I knew exactly why you posted it and where you wanted to go with it, so I just cut out the middleman.

Read the Amnesty article about refugee numbers.

The simple changing of one word can have a drastic effect. Labelling refugees as migrants is a blatant attempt to remove any culpability we have (and there is a huge amount of culpability) in the situation and demonise innocent people. Even if we had no culpability, the very idea of one of the richest countries in the world turning away people fleeing for their lives is disgusting. This makes me feel quite sick:

...Since January 2014 the UK has resettled just 216 Syrian refugees...

That is a pitifully small number.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Interesting that the UK has their very own trump..crappy haircut and all BUT..Boris 'seems' a 'little' bit more intelligent than herr trump..who is an arrogant, ignorant liar...Let's see who lasts longer..boris or donnie..November 2020 can't come soon enough.

 

[nevele neves]

Struggling to see the relevance to my post...

You brought up giving money to them. Seems bad to give money to someone who murders Afgans from the sky.

 

[nevele neves]

I did read the article, and because you are entirely transparent I knew exactly why you posted it and where you wanted to go with it, so I just cut out the middleman.

Read the Amnesty article about refugee numbers.

The simple changing of one word can have a drastic effect. Labelling refugees as migrants is a blatant attempt to remove any culpability we have (and there is a huge amount of culpability) in the situation and demonise innocent people. Even if we had no culpability, the very idea of one of the richest countries in the world turning away people fleeing for their lives is disgusting. This makes me feel quite sick:



That is a pitifully small number.

I'm confused why they could not stay in France then? I did not know BBC had an agenda against migrants or refugees?

 

[King Boonen]

You brought up giving money to them. Seems bad to give money to someone who murders Afgans from the sky.

I'm assuming you are for the abolition of the military then?

 

[King Boonen]

I'm confused why they could not stay in France then? I did not know BBC had an agenda against migrants or refugees?

No one made that claim.

 

[nevele neves]

No one made that claim.

Read that way from your reply.

 

[nevele neves]

I'm assuming you are for the abolition of the military then?

Sure why not. Globalization can solve all of our problems. Right?

 

[King Boonen]

Read that way from your reply.

Well that wasn't the intention and I honestly think that's pretty clear in the context of these discussions. It's impossible to determine who has decided to use the word migrant rather than refugee. It could have been Priti Patel or one of her advisors who used it and the author didn't want to change it, it could have been the author or the editor at the BBC or it could be BBC policy. My comment was more a general point on why people insist on using migrant when refugee is more applicable.

Sure why not. Globalization can solve all of our problems. Right?

I don't know, why don't you expand on why you think it can?

I looked up your assertion. The only thing I could quickly find was a statement from Hekmatyar saying that Prince Harry went to Afghanistan to kill innocent Afghans while drunk. Is there something I've missed?

 

[nevele neves]

Well that wasn't the intention and I honestly think that's pretty clear in the context of these discussions. It's impossible to determine who has decided to use the word migrant rather than refugee. It could have been Priti Patel or one of her advisors who used it and the author didn't want to change it, it could have been the author or the editor at the BBC or it could be BBC policy. My comment was more a general point on why people insist on using migrant when refugee is more applicable.



I don't know, why don't you expand on why you think it can?

I looked up your assertion. The only thing I could quickly find was a statement from Hekmatyar saying that Prince Harry went to Afghanistan to kill innocent Afghans while drunk. Is there something I've missed?

The reason I posted the BBC article was being critical towards France's handling of the refugees or migrants whichever you prefer.
I read an article somewhere that was being critical of the Prince and his military service. That he had fired on afgans was in it. particularly interesting when you mentioned give them money.

 

[Archibald]

That he had fired on afgans was in it

I'm curious, were these Afghans shooting back, or sitting having dinner in their houses?

 

[del1962]

Surely the Prince Andrew revelations are far more damaging for the monarchy than the Harry/Meghan Wills/Kate sideshow

On another point

Migrant - large defintiion covering all sorts of people including multi-millionaires to refugees

Refugees - those fleeing country where the conditions have become intolerable

Asylum Seeker - those fleeing persecution (will be a subset of refugees)

Neither refugees or Asylum seekers should be coming from the EU , unless we think the EU is not a safe place for them, perhaps after Brexit at some time in the future this may be the case

Anyway the meatloaf Mps are saying they are will do anything to stop no deal, which begs the question why they didn't they vote for the withdrawal agreement, (obviously those that did are excluded from such accusations).