Brits don't dope?

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hrotha said:
They're both pretty obviously dopers but they're also obviously not proven dopers.
Simon Yates served a doping ban.

Froome tested positive for huge levels of Salbutamol.

That is proven.
 
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DanielSong39 said:
Brits do dope but so does everyone else. It's obvious that British dope is miles ahead of Colombian dope, French dope, or Belgian dope. Russian and American dope is just pathetic these days.

The sport is what it is so the choice is either to enjoy the WWE on wheels or find something else to follow.

The e-bikes are kind of getting out of hand though. They make the sport way less entertaining to watch.
Yes, but this is the British thread :D
 
Pretty sure Yates declared his Terb use on the form. So he wasn't trying to dope. You don't try and dope and tell CADF on your form what you are doping with. Without his declaration, I would agree, he was doping. With the form declaration, pretty obvious is was as UCI confirmed.
 
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samhocking said:
Pretty sure Yates declared his Terb use on the form. So he wasn't trying to dope. You don't try and dope and tell CADF on your form what you are doping with. Without his declaration, I would agree, he was doping. With the form declaration, pretty obvious is was as UCI confirmed.
Pretty sure he got banned, therefore was doping.

But when you know who are behind the riders winning GTs to think they are clean takes huge levels of either ignorance or blind belief.

Then you have to consider who Yates beat, Piti, Astana, Quickstep, Sky, etc etc and then ask yourself how could he do it clean, just how and if he did well he is the greatest ever.......

But then reality kicks in and Yates is another doper who had a great PED program, better than the others PED programmes.
 
He was found positive of the AAF, but clearly they didn't believe it was due to wanting to dope, because he never a received a ban for an intentional ADRV in line with that of a doper, he received a 4 month ban which was inline with a non-intentional ADRV. Big difference.
 
samhocking said:
He was found positive of the AAF, but clearly they didn't believe it was due to wanting to dope, because he never a received a ban for an intentional ADRV in line with that of a doper, he received a 4 month ban which was inline with a non-intentional ADRV. Big difference.
he's more credible than wiggins and froome but then the fact they he has a doping ban tells you how low that bar is.....
 
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samhocking said:
He was found positive of the AAF, but clearly they didn't believe it was due to wanting to dope, because he never a received a ban for an intentional ADRV in line with that of a doper, he received a 4 month ban which was inline with a non-intentional ADRV. Big difference.
Yates can 'they', UCI run by thank Uncle Brian Cookson for that, who conicedently who wrote a lovely (see vomit stains) piece in The Guardian yesterday, the paper that hires William Flufferingham to fluff Sky and anything British in cycling.

He recieved a ban Sam. That ban was for taking an illegal product that enhances performance. End of. Dress it up any way you want even hang a Union Jack off it, it is doping. He got a ban for doping.

Yates never produced evidence that he had asthma from childhood. So lets call a spade a spade. Yates like every other GT winner is a doper.
 
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samhocking said:
I would need more evidence than that to consider him doping with Terb, sorry.
My biggest takeaway from the victories of Wiggin, Froome, Thomas and now Yates is how effortlessly they won their grand tours. Froome has done a good job of acting the last few years, but they all seemed to have won without doing much suffering. Please don't give me bs about the great teams they were on, if you're climbing an HC mountain and you're on a bad day you will suffer.
 
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samhocking said:
I would need more evidence than that to consider him doping with Terb, sorry.
My biggest takeaway from the victories of Wiggin, Froome, Thomas and now Yates is how effortlessly they won their grand tours. Froome has done a good job of acting the last few years, but they all seemed to have won without doing much suffering. Please don't give me bs about the great teams they were on, if you're climbing an HC mountain and you're on a bad day you will suffer.
True that. It's highly annoying seeing them winning HC-stages, dropping the rest of the field like stones, without giving the impression of being devastated.
 
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Not only guilty of doping, but guilty of not suffering too. Must be some very special asthma medication cycling's using!
Well especially whilst Sky constantly using the 'hardest sporting event on the planet' narrative. That's freaking annoying.
 
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Interesting, that the rise of anglo-saxons in GT is that connected with alleged use of motors in cycling. According to newest french book Varjas sold first small motor in late 1998. The information about motor doping spreaded about 2010.

First is coincidently connected with rise of Postal, second with Sky.
 
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lartiste said:
Interesting, that the rise of anglo-saxons in GT is that connected with alleged use of motors in cycling. According to newest french book Varjas sold first small motor in late 1998. The information about motor doping spreaded about 2010.

First is coincidently connected with rise of Postal, second with Sky.
You know the guy that’s won the most for these Anglo Saxons that are on the rise is African
 
rick james said:
[quote="lartiste":zq0e3tud]Interesting, that the rise of anglo-saxons in GT is that connected with alleged use of motors in cycling. According to newest french book Varjas sold first small motor in late 1998. The information about motor doping spreaded about 2010.

First is coincidently connected with rise of Postal, second with Sky.
You know the guy that’s won the most for these Anglo Saxons that are on the rise is African[/quote]

who does he ride for in the olympics?
 
ngent41 said:
rick james said:
[quote="lartiste":1z83lrsz]Interesting, that the rise of anglo-saxons in GT is that connected with alleged use of motors in cycling. According to newest french book Varjas sold first small motor in late 1998. The information about motor doping spreaded about 2010.

First is coincidently connected with rise of Postal, second with Sky.
You know the guy that’s won the most for these Anglo Saxons that are on the rise is African
who does he ride for in the olympics?[/quote]


yes the mighty Great Britain and Northern Ireland , but he is African, he was born in Africa....class him Anglo Saxon all you want but he isn't
 
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samhocking said:
I would need more evidence than that to consider him doping with Terb, sorry.
A 4 month ban for abanned substance.

No documentary proof of childhood asthma and of course you believe him.

:lol:

One born every minute.
 
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Benotti69 said:
samhocking said:
I would need more evidence than that to consider him doping with Terb, sorry.
A 4 month ban for abanned substance.

No documentary proof of childhood asthma and of course you believe him.

:lol:

One born every minute.

again you have no right to know every single bit of detail about the personal life of a pro cyclist
If said cyclist would like his wins to be viewed as believable said cyclist should prove a history of an illness for which he claims to need medicine, which is also a PED, for.

If not well said cyclist (nor his fans) cannot whinge about being viewed like nearly all his predecessors who have won GTs as a dirty doper.

:)

PS Callum Skinner had no problem producing his documentary evidence of asthma from childhood. A UK cyclist set the bar, pity others cant follow.......but there is a reason for not being able to produce the documents.....it is called doping. But you know this and continue to try and obfuscate.
 

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