Brits don't dope?

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Briant_Gumble said:
I had a look on the lets run forum and Paula Radcliffe is the no. 1 name mentioned there.

However, she did not compete often from 2006-2007 due to injuries and pregnancy.

She has commented already on the German documentary so I will be interested to see if she comments further.

How very 'convenient'

Back in the '90s a UK track 'legend' well known for chemical enhancement seemed to be particularly unlucky with glandular fever. I'm sure the two things weren't related.
 
Briant_Gumble said:
The daily mail article specifically describes someone with an "untarnished reputation" so that rules out Christine.

Edit: It also specifically mentions a "track and field" star so that rules out the people who were saying Chris Hoy as well. I have to think it's either Ennis or Farah, no one else is a big enough name.

It'll end up being some makeweight in a relay team and the Mail is sensationalising but the only other name that fits the bill is Phillips Idowu who was picking up gold and silver medals at the time though why a triple jumper would be unsing EPO is open to debate.
 
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Briant_Gumble said:
I had a look on the lets run forum and Paula Radcliffe is the no. 1 name mentioned there.

However, she did not compete often from 2006-2007 due to injuries and pregnancy.

She has commented already on the German documentary so I will be interested to see if she comments further.
thanks for the infos.
radcliffe? now that would be sugar sweet.
i'd spend cash to see her being exposed.
 
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bobbins said:
How very 'convenient'

Well since she'd frequently said she wanted to start a family, getting pregnant was rather convenient!

Paula did come back from giving birth in early 2007 to win the NY marathon in the Autumn and repeated the win a year later. She wasn't as fast as at her peak by then, but she was still a serious competitor in the timeframe concerned.

She would be in 2nd place on my list of suspicion behind Christine O. Her 2002/2003 performances are just too good to be true, but she still gets shaded by Christine O's "forgetfulness". No-one else stands out on the female side for me, though you can't rule anyone out.

On the male side, Mo Farah is out on his own as being too good to be true.
 
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It is about a list of people tested by IAAF, the international athletics federation; track and field, nothing else.

The person clearly has had some phone calls about it as he/she has hired a lawyer who is telling the press to absolutely not publish the name, or else. The press can't say who it is, but they can say who it isn't, and they will. Just sit back and figure out who is left when they have told you everyone it isn't. The news stories about this is written VERY CAREFULLY. Read them carefully too.

Or maybe the person should just come up with some story about dehydration, naturally high haemoglobin, the testing not being up to current standards etc. etc. Look to cross country skiing, they have had plenty of experience with explaining leaked haemoglobin values. The best would be, if the athlete does have a naturally high haemoglobin and has been in the bio passport system (active at a high level after 2009), to publish bio passport data showing this.
 
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Verburggen and McQuaid's good friend, WADA President Craig Reedie, says he can't do anything about Russia lab or RUSADA.

Surprise surprise WADA know who pays the piper calls the tune....:rolleyes:
 
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The well known British star was contacted by Sportsmail and given the opportunity to explain circumstances behind the high blood values that led to their inclusion on a list containing many athletes with doping records.

A number of them were found out after their blood samples showed suspiciously high concentrations of haemoglobin — a possible sign they were using blood-boosting endurance drug EPO.

But although there are no suggestions that the result of the famous Briton’s blood sample — on the highest red tier of suspicious activity on the whistleblower’s document — was the result of doping, the only response to Sportsmail’s questions came from the lawyers.

they keep repeating "well known star"..

also, if this person can afford lawyers that can scare these newspapers then it has to be someone big right?

my money is still on Radcliffe.
 
coinneach said:
Call me a fanboy (because I am) but I cannot for a second believe chris hoy is anything other than 100% clean. Whereas It wouldn't be such a surprise to me if it was JE....... I base that on Seb Coes reaction, and also how she has handled herself, but I wouldn't call it evidence.

Spits coffee.

I'm sorry but if that is the case then you come accross as stupid, totally in the dark of how doping works, ignorant of how life works, and naive to the extreme.

There have been cases where the wives had no idea what their husbands were up to. Siblings and parents had no idea what they were up to.

Vouching for anyone other than yourself is nothing short of stupid.
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Vouching for someone you don't even know I probably shouldn't even post an adjective for it.

Seriously, how can you say you know for 100% someone who was at the top of sport during the period in human history that doping is at it's most prevalent, was clean?:confused:

As for books "broadening your mind", Err that's true of something like War and Peace maybe. Not books about celebrities and books about sports stars.
 
the sceptic said:
they keep repeating "well known star"..

also, if this person can afford lawyers that can scare these newspapers then it has to be someone big right?

my money is still on Radcliffe.

It would be weird for someone who is facing a small chance of being outed as dodgy in the next week to choose to make statements to newspapers about doping this week. I don't think it's what lawyers would advise and generally the number 1 omerta school of thought has been to shut your mouth at the first sign of evidence coming out.
 
Major star doesn't necessarily limit it to farah radcliffe and Ennis. Newspapers use hyperboles. It could very well be Rutherford or even someone who got a wc medal somewhere. It could very easily be that triple jumper. He was a world champion.
 
The Hitch said:
Major star doesn't necessarily limit it to farah radcliffe and Ennis. Newspapers use hyperboles. It could very well be Rutherford or even someone who got a wc medal somewhere. It could very easily be that triple jumper. He was a world champion.

phillips idowu
Would elevated hematocrit be a big help to an explosive athlete? EPO isn't really a sprinters drug of choice.
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
Yes, it does sound like it's Radcliffe. Amazing that it hasn't come out yet, whoever it is.
Radcliffe was on bbc 5 live recently to comment on the Russia revelations.
She talked the omerta talk about how it ruined the reputation of the sport blabla.
If it's her, the irony would be lovely.
BBC (the whole of GB actually) could use a good wake up call.
 
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The Hitch said:
Well the balco sprinters were using it.

But I doubt they were using it to the extent of raising red flags and landing in the upper tier of the suspicion index.

To me this can only be someone from an endurance sport. And when they keep repeating "british star" I think they mean someone who is known to people who don't even follow the sport.

Then I guess it depends on if they mean someone who is a star now or back then..
 
thehog said:
True reminds me of the Ryan Giggs case whereby he was finally named on Twitter and once the cat was out of the bag... it was out of the bag.

I'm sure the Daily Star will be on the case..

A lot more people care about a footballer cheating on his wife than an athlete doping. Its a bigger story.

If the person named is indeed a big name, then it might become big, but an unnamed athlete vs an unnamed footballer, no contest.

Secondly many of the people who know who the cheating athlete is, have an interest in the myth of the clean London 2012 olympics that "inspire a nation", enduring.

A scandal surrounding the event that was so bought into by the population it raised the life expectency of the country, will hurt them financially in the long run.

No football journo, except man utd fans, cared if Giggs was named as the one cheating with his brothers wife. Scandals like that may if anything further increase the profile of the sport, not hurt it.