Brits don't dope?

[keeponrollin]

For those firing out the names of random GB Track & Field athletes, read the following from the Telegraph article:

The explosive list of athletes, independently sourced by Telegraph Sport, was revealed on Tuesday to include the name of one of Britain’s biggest stars, along with two other British runners.

So all three are runners !

 

[Briant_Gumble]

For those firing out the names of random GB Track & Field athletes, read the following from the Telegraph article:



So all three are runners !

The pieces of the puzzle are starting to connect.

Technically it is not a direct positive but the fact that the athlete has been trying to silence the press doesn't look good.

If this is Radcliffe I think it would be the biggest doping scandal in UK Athletics history. Linford Christie was big but I can't think of an athlete other than Radcliffe who has so vociferously asked for dopers to be burnt at the stake.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

The "as well" can be read like they are trying to say it isn't Farah or Ennis either.

Not sure what you mean by that?

 

[Briant_Gumble]

I think one of the other Britons was Kate Reed.

From the comments from the daily mail article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

"Two other Britons are listed but were fringe track-and-field performers, though one was tested before a major competition because of suspicions brought on by ill advised comments before a race".

That fits as Reed finished 23rd at the 2008 Olympics and blamed her performance on a pre race drug test. I can't think of a clean athlete who would blame a performance on a drug test. The drug test was brought about after she made a joke in front of a drug tester.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2008/sep/05/olympics2008.olympicsathletics

 

[The Hitch]

Not sure what you mean by that?

That "three 2012 champions as well", suggests the British athlete being discussed earlier is not a 2012 olympic champion.

 

[The Hitch]

I think one of the other Britons was Kate Reed.

From the comments from the daily mail article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

"Two other Britons are listed but were fringe track-and-field performers, though one was tested before a major competition because of suspicions brought on by ill advised comments before a race".

That fits as Reed finished 23rd at the 2008 Olympics and blamed her performance on a pre race drug test. I can't think of a clean athlete who would blame a performance on a drug test. The drug test was brought about after she made a joke in front of a drug tester.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2008/sep/05/olympics2008.olympicsathletics

Well done sir. Chapeau

 

[neineinei]

Not sure what you mean by that?

a British star is on the list, as well as 3 (foreign) 2012 Olympic champions

 

[the sceptic]

Well, I guess we know which excuse Radcliffe will go for if it's her..

that led to hypotheses that pregnancy is good for elite runners because of the physiologic changes that mimic blood doping.

Blood volume does increase by about 60 percent during pregnancy, which may make it seem that a woman would have so much extra blood after her baby is born that it would be the equivalent of blood doping — getting extra blood to carry oxygen to muscles. But, Pivarnik noted, blood volume returns to normal within four to eight weeks after a woman gives birth.

“If your question is, would a woman’s enhanced blood volume from pregnancy possibly help her in a race performed two to three weeks postpartum, I would say yes,” Pivarnik said. But that is not the situation for Radcliffe.

from her training base in Monaco

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/03/sports/othersports/03runner.html

 

[the sceptic]

 

[The Hitch]

Where art the other 2 GBR's?

 

[DirtyWorks]

Just so I understand the current status, we're talking one British medal winner and two non-medaling athletes?

Radcliffe is on the short list as the possible champion. Farah, for me, would be the other likely choice.
What's the prevailing opinion on Ennis as a 'never tested positive' winner?

Reed is on the short list as one of the other two.

 

[neineinei]

Must be more lists, maybe one for 2006, one for 2007, one for 2008 or something. Doesn't fit with the number of other nationalities either.

I would like to know if Marta "Rosa" Domínguez is on it.

 

[wansteadimp]

Where art the other 2 GBR's?

Listed by suspicion categories then nation?

 

[the sceptic]

It can now be revealed that three British athletes’ names appear on various types of documents, with the major star’s identity recorded under a heading “Suspicion red” and a second competitor appearing under “Suspicion orange”. The third athlete appears on a page headed “M suspicious 2007”, which includes detailed readings of the competitor’s blood values.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...es-have-been-dragged-into-doping-scandal.html

 

[TheSpud]

If those fuzzes are correct size then its a long / relatively long first name and short second name. Unless its surname and then first name? Or Full first names and then surname?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

If those fuzzes are correct size then its a long / relatively long first name and short second name. Unless its surname and then first name? Or Full first names and then surname?

The larger fuzzes first suggest it's capitals in left column, then lower case in middle column. Which would suggest surname first.

 

[The Hitch]

If that were the case then all the Kenyans would have extremely long surnames.

Looks more to me like all the names have been totally blanked out with a continous black line that goes through first and second name, and the flash from the photo being taken or something like that has created the little white line that goes over the blanked out names down the middle or so creating the impression of a gap in the lines.

And if you look at the M France there hardly seems to be a gap between the 2 at all.

people are looking too much into the tiniest possible clues.

 

[keeponrollin]

people are looking too much into the tiniest possible clues.

Agreed !

With all the people who have now seen the list, its just a question of time before there's a leak, so people just need to be patient.

I'd be pretty sure the reason only one GB name is in the screenshot, is because the names as suggest above, are separated by risk, (Red Orange, etc), & then by Nation.

 

[zebedee]

My money's on Ennis. I think the clues lie in the Telegraph photo. That shows a female running in Adidas shoes. Farah and Radcliffe are both Nike athletes.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Looks more to me like all the names have been totally blanked out with a continous black line that goes through first and second name, and the flash from the photo being taken or something like that has created the little white line that goes over the blanked out names down the middle or so creating the impression of a gap in the lines.

If they were already struck through why would they also be blurred out?

But yes, we're looking at smudges on a paper, and nothing is going to change that they are just smudges.

The names will come out eventually.

 

[the sceptic]

Agreed !

With all the people who have now seen the list, its just a question of time before there's a leak, so people just need to be patient.

I'd be pretty sure the reason only one GB name is in the screenshot, is because the names as suggest above, are separated by risk, (Red Orange, etc), & then by Nation.

well, the key is that it's a female.

and we also know it's a runner and someone famous.

can't really think of too many other options than Radcliffe.

 

[keeponrollin]

My money's on Ennis. I think the clues lie in the Telegraph photo. That shows a female running in Adidas shoes. Farah and Radcliffe are both Nike athletes.

Ennis isn't a runner though, & the article is quite clear that all three are runners !

 

[The Hitch]

I hope its not Radcliffe. She's retired, and her successes are more than a decade old. She never won an olympic medal let alone one at the home games, and if she ever was a household name ( I think she was about as big as Froome is now) then it is loooooong gone. It would continue the theme of big dopers falling after they have lost most of their relevancy (what we are seeing in cycling with USADA and recently Padova where all the big names are retired).

Its always easy for any sport to defend any doping that happened a few years earlier. They just say that was a worse era but that sport is clean now.

 

[The Hitch]

The evidence that its a runner is based on the telegraph quote "2 other runners", or has it been mentioned elsewhere? If its just the one quote, I don't think thats neccesarily a deal breaker, sports journalists aren't always the brightest tools in the box, and make grammatical mistakes all the time.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Ennis isn't a runner though, & the article is quite clear that all three are runners !

Is it clear that all three are runners though?

Edit: Seem Hitch's post, it may be a slight grammatical mistake that the other two are runners but not the star athlete.