Teams & Riders Brothers in (crank) arms - Yates Discussion Thread

[jaylew]

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There's the GP Industria first for Adam on Sunday, which he won two years ago, so should be in with a shout. Though Gerrans is there as well so could be the leader?

Interesting in light of he debate above, that Yates is the leader for Tirreno with Chaves as support

It's the first running since he won, so I'd expect the team to support the defending champion. As a point of information, the picture of him destroying Formolo in the sprint is still my background image.

Given Chaves gets preference in all grand tours, it's only reasonable Adam and Simon should be leaders next week given their consistent track record of top 10, 5 and 3s in world tour 1 week races.

Exactly. It's right for Adam to lead TA, though the organizers didn't get the memo (they invited Chaves to the press conference).

The Yates' and Chaves are super talented and you've got to give them all their chances to lead in races. Chaves is riding for GC in two GTs as a fairly young rider. He should absolutely work for the Yates in some week long races and/or one days and he should get some support from one or both of them in at least one GT this year. That said, it probably won't happen as they sound to be as Tour-centric as most US and UK riders and they're too young to send to back to back GTs.

Besides, Adam showed last week that he's probably on the best form of the three.

 

[SafeBet]

Chaves is somehow a bigger name in Italy and he can speak some italian, so it's no surprise he was the one invited.

 

[jaylew]

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Chaves is somehow a bigger name in Italy and he can speak some italian, so it's no surprise he was the one invited.

Him being invited over some of the bigger name riders from other teams was slightly odd to me. Is he particularly popular there?

 

[SafeBet]

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Him being invited over some of the bigger name riders from other teams was slightly odd to me. Is he particularly popular there?

I wouldn't say so, but neither are Mollema or Yates or Pinot for instance.
Plus Chaves raced for Coldeportes in 2012 (and 2013) which was basically an italian team doing most races of the italian calendar. He probably gained some fans during that period.

Kinda odd they didn't invite Purito who has always been a fan favorite over here.

On a side note: Nibali yesterday noted that Chaves looked very good in Larciano. He thinks he was not going full gas and could be a factor in Tirreno. We'll see if he's right. I still believe Yates is the captain here.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Nice ride from Simon today, shame the race has become so weighted towards the prologue after stage cancellations, but going to be another solid top 10 in a decent field.

 

[JRanton]

And Adam managed to save the day at Tirreno after a mechanical at the worst possible time. I didn't actually see him make it back to the group but good job that he did!

 

[DBotero]

Simon Yates was very good today.Maybe it's time for at least one of them to go for the GC this TDF.

 

[jaylew]

And Adam managed to save the day at Tirreno after a mechanical at the worst possible time. I didn't actually see him make it back to the group but good job that he did!

Makes no real difference with no stage 5, of course.

 

[JRanton]

And Adam managed to save the day at Tirreno after a mechanical at the worst possible time. I didn't actually see him make it back to the group but good job that he did!

Makes no real difference with no stage 5, of course.

Ah yes, what a shame. Hopefully he rides Catalunya.

 

[del1962]

Was really looking forward to how Adam went tomorrow,

 

[dirkprovin]

Simon Yates was very good today.Maybe it's time for at least one of them to go for the GC this TDF.

Whilst they will most certainly be "protected riders", I think it will be more a case of see if either can ride with the big boys on a day to day basis; if they can well and good otherwise once they've lost significant time let them rest up then go stage hunting if they're up for it. Whilst the 2nd short TT may not be bad for them if they're in form or not too spent; they're likely to have shed time in the first one.

 

[DBotero]

Simon Yates was very good today.Maybe it's time for at least one of them to go for the GC this TDF.

Whilst they will most certainly be "protected riders", I think it will be more a case of see if either can ride with the big boys on a day to day basis; if they can well and good otherwise once they've lost significant time let them rest up then go stage hunting if they're up for it. Whilst the 2nd short TT may not be bad for them if they're in form or not too spent; they're likely to have shed time in the first one.

It depends versus which riders they lose that time in the TT as they won't challenge Froome&Co.there.Decent ride from Simon Yates again today.

 

[Ramon Koran]

Simon Yates was very good today.Maybe it's time for at least one of them to go for the GC this TDF.

Whilst they will most certainly be "protected riders", I think it will be more a case of see if either can ride with the big boys on a day to day basis; if they can well and good otherwise once they've lost significant time let them rest up then go stage hunting if they're up for it. Whilst the 2nd short TT may not be bad for them if they're in form or not too spent; they're likely to have shed time in the first one.

Simon Yates is actually a decent tt riders not sure about Adam. Not froome level but close to contador or pinot

 

[dirkprovin]

Simon Yates was very good today.Maybe it's time for at least one of them to go for the GC this TDF.

Whilst they will most certainly be "protected riders", I think it will be more a case of see if either can ride with the big boys on a day to day basis; if they can well and good otherwise once they've lost significant time let them rest up then go stage hunting if they're up for it. Whilst the 2nd short TT may not be bad for them if they're in form or not too spent; they're likely to have shed time in the first one.

Simon Yates is actually a decent tt riders not sure about Adam. Not froome level but close to contador or pinot

Whilst their adequacy, rather than excellence, against the clock would not cost them so much in a Giro or Vuelta; the greater depth of field at TdF will hurt them. At this point, neither of them have proven they can ride the 3 weeks at the top level and climb with the big boys on the day in day out basis required to contend. Maybe this is the year for them to prove the latter.

 

[postmanhat]

Good signs of progression for Simon at P-N. 29th last year, and 7th this. Just seen he's got a late call-up for MSR as well, presumably as part of the Poggio train for Matthews

Both of them are down for Pais Vasco at the moment

 

[blackmamba]

More bad news for Brits: Simon Yates tests positive

- http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/04/news/more-bad-news-for-brits-simon-yates-tests-positive_403973

 

[Pricey_sky]

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More bad news for Brits: Simon Yates tests positive

- http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/04/news/more-bad-news-for-brits-simon-yates-tests-positive_403973

Can't really discuss it over this side of the forum, let's see what the next few days brings.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Simon back riding in the Dauphine.

http://skysports.tv/Fx9kg4

 

[yaco]

Actually both Yates brothers are riding Dauphine.

 

[Alexandre B.]

4-months suspension for Simon. No TDF.
http://www.uci.ch/pressreleases/uci-statement-simon-yates/

 

[Oliwright]

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4-months suspension for Simon. No TDF.
http://www.uci.ch/pressreleases/uci-statement-simon-yates/

Does this stop Simon's move to Sky which would have happened at some point?
I think they wouldn't have gone this year.
But when GC opportunities did arise at Sky then I would have expected them to go.
I still think Adam would

 

[DBotero]

Too bad This TDF i was expecting both of them to go for the GC and support each other in the bid to get a decent place at the end of it.

 

[yaco]

Yates boys were never riding for GC at the TDF - It's all about stages at the TDF - They will try GC at the 2017 Vuelta and Giro if still at OGE - S.Yates may not want to ride for SKY after British Cycling disgracefully leaked his AAF.

 

[jaylew]

Well, the Simon news is good news for Chaves - he'll have someone to hopefully be there in the high mountains with him at the Vuelta

 

[dirkprovin]

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Well, the Simon news is good news for Chaves - he'll have someone to hopefully be there in the high mountains with him at the Vuelta

With due respect, that will be dependant on where he's going to be riding next year. If he's going elsewhere then it's unlikely. If he (or his brother) are staying then its likely to be on the basis that they are viewed as GC men on equal status to Chaves. WILL he be willing to accept secondary status for this Vuelta, a race that he feels is climatically too hot for him ?