Teams & Riders Brothers in (crank) arms - Yates Discussion Thread

[jmdirt]

We all knew that he would have a bad day, but 11 minutes?! Maybe his knee is worse than he/we thought?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Adam will ride until Simon has recovered.

It's strange that Simon didn't ask Adam for help today. They lost the Giro, it seems.

 

[SHAD0W93]

It's strange that Simon didn't ask Adam for help today. They lost the Giro, it seems.

Adam couldn’t arrive in time probably.

 

[Strawberry_Jams]

Needs to quit, get fit and go to the tour. He's already got a stage win

 

[KZD]

I suppose that now Simon will abandon the Giro and try to a proper GC assault in the Tour.

 

[ice&fire]

We all knew that he would have a bad day, but 11 minutes?! Maybe his knee is worse than he/we thought?

His bad days are getting better. He also lost 11 minutes two weeks ago in a climb in Asturias half the length of today's.

 

[Red Rick]

Must be the knee. Sad.

Yates has been super unlucky in recent years and it kind of gets all handwaved away but "Yates is Yatesing" and being super inconsistent.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Maybe he could do a really good Tour GC? If his ITT really has improved.

Simon could certainly add an extra element to the race.

 

[yaco]

Simon if he goes to the TDF will have limited team support because the team will be built around Groenewegen - The plan could be that if he gets through the first six stages then he rides for GC or otherwise he chases stages.

 

[Strawberry_Jams]

Simon if he goes to the TDF will have limited team support because the team will be built around Groenewegen - The plan could be that if he gets through the first six stages then he rides for GC or otherwise he chases stages.

I don't think he really needs team support, when it comes down to it, Jumbo and UAE will control the race anyway.

 

[Rollthedice]

Must be the knee. Sad.

Yates has been super unlucky in recent years and it kind of gets all handwaved away but "Yates is Yatesing" and being super inconsistent.

It's a mix of being unlucky and inconsistent. Yesterday it was obviously the knee. People underestimate the amount of "everything has to fall into place (and luck)" in order to win a GT. That's why there are only 5 active multiple GT winners out of which three will most likely never win another and the other two are Slovenians.

 

[Red Rick]

It's a mix of being unlucky and inconsistent. Yesterday it was obviously the knee. People underestimate the amount of "everything has to fall into place (and luck)" in order to win a GT. That's why there are only 5 active multiple GT winners out of which three will most likely never win another and the other two are Slovenians.

Did you just count Froome as retired?

 

[Netserk]

Did you just count Froome as retired?

I think he forgot Bernal.

 

[Red Rick]

Supposedly Yates is continuing.

That seems like a terrible idea

 

[JosefK]

Supposedly Yates is continuing.

That seems like a terrible idea

Concur. A healthy/recovered Simon Yates would make the TDF more fun.

 

[KZD]

Concur. A healthy/recovered Simon Yates would make the TDF more fun.

The problem is that Simon Yates seems to dislike riding the Tour for GC for some weird reason

 

[lenric]

The problem is that Simon Yates seems to dislike riding the Tour for GC for some weird reason

maybe his brother likes riding the Tour

 

[Bolder]

Agree that he should drop out and ride the Tour for stages or polka dots. he can win any mountain stage from the favorites' group, well, not easily, but it would be easier for him than for a GC contender. He might be able to recover and take one of the Alps/Dolomites stages in the Giro but the Tour is a bigger prize. Would be great for BEX to win a Tour mountain stage and a sprint stage...

 

[motty89]

Looked alright today. Fact he is continuing suggests the knee isn't so bad and blockhaus was just another bad day like in asturias?

 

[Pinot's goat]

Looked alright today. Fact he is continuing suggests the knee isn't so bad and blockhaus was just another bad day like in asturias?

We won't ever know the actual answer to that question and I don't think even Yates himself could answer properly.

 

[yaco]

We will get the answer in the high mountain stages.

 

[jmdirt]

I guess his knee is better. Nice race today!

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

I liked that in the after race interview he was blunt about stage wins not redeeming his race as far as he’s concerned. He was there to win the Giro, not to get his fifth and sixth stages.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

I know Simon won a Vuelta, but damn, this man could be one of the greatest stage hunters ever if he chose not to focus on GC. Great ride, even though he never felt like a protagonist throughout the stage he managed to conserve the legs and seize his opportunity.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

I know Simon won a Vuelta, but damn, this man could be one of the greatest stage hunters ever if he chose not to focus on GC. Great ride, even though he never felt like a protagonist throughout the stage he managed to conserve the legs and seize his opportunity.

Point of order - he was off the front trying to get in a break on the first climb, in addition to his final, brutal attack.