Teams & Riders Brothers in (crank) arms - Yates Discussion Thread

[TomLPC]

That certainly makes sense, wonder if he can ride the vuelta?

Last years random giro collapse and 2018 still a bit up in air.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

How often do they get tested? Like, did Yates just ride the whole first week of the giro with coronavirus? The idea that this was responsible for his Etna performance is kinda shocking considering he could have infected the entire peloton since then

As I understand it, it takes a few days for the tests to be able to detect it. So I would guess that he probably had it at undetectable levels by the time the race started and passed the initial test. Probably wasn’t tested again until last night.

 

[Red Rick]

How often do they get tested? Like, did Yates just ride the whole first week of the giro with coronavirus? The idea that this was responsible for his Etna performance is kinda shocking considering he could have infected the entire peloton since then

They do temperatue checks thrice a day and when Yates had a mild elevation he got tested immediately, when one rapid test came back positive they immediately did another one and it was positive too.

I don't know how often they test the entire peloton but I reckon it's similar to the Tour i.e. rest day?

 

[Red Rick]

That certainly makes sense, wonder if he can ride the vuelta?

Last years random giro collapse and 2018 still a bit up in air.

Time between now and Vuelta seems suuuper short to me. Overexertion with viral infections can ruin careers.

 

[yaco]

There is always the possibility of rider or staff member of Mitchelton, testing positive in the next few days,though i believe the rest of the peleton is safe. The positive test shows the covid protocols are working.

 

[TomLPC]

Time between now and Vuelta seems suuuper short to me. Overexertion with viral infections can ruin careers.

Depends on the nature of his infection I suppose, anecdotally some seem to go along fine and others it just completely knocks out with seemingly no prejudice. What my doctor said was ‘running it off’ as people do with sports injuries is the worst possible idea. Cyclists however seem like the most likely group to ‘play hurt’, but with 10 days away it certainly does seem like a bad idea.

If nobody else in the peloton has it, they got lucky, this is a bit of a disaster scenario.

 

[yaco]

Time between now and Vuelta seems suuuper short to me. Overexertion with viral infections can ruin careers.

Most riders who tested positive since the resumption of the season have quickly got back to racing if they are asymptomatic or have minor symtoms.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

I will be shocked if he turns up at the Vuelta. If he was tested because of an elevated temperature, it follows that he’s not asymptomatic and even if it stays mild I don’t see that it would be worth the risk.

 

[SafeBet]

I will be shocked if he turns up at the Vuelta. If he was tested because of an elevated temperature, it follows that he’s not asymptomatic and even if it stays mild I don’t see that it would be worth the risk.

I don't know if the standard national procedures apply here but normally if a person tests positive for COVID-19 in Italy he must stay quarantined for 14 days and can't leave the country. Vuelta starts in 10 days.

 

[Red Rick]

I don't know if the standard national procedures apply here but normally if a person tests positive for COVID-19 in Italy he must stay quarantined for 14 days and can't leave the country. Vuelta starts in 10 days.

Finishing the Giro in spirit I see.

 

[yaco]

I will be shocked if he turns up at the Vuelta. If he was tested because of an elevated temperature, it follows that he’s not asymptomatic and even if it stays mild I don’t see that it would be worth the risk.

It's unlikely he will ride the Vuelta but if he does it will not be for GC.

 

[memyselfandI]

Brightest coming out of this is now there's finally time to invest some proper (read: couple inches smaller) size of shades and get rid of those Hagrid arms, haircut that is, not shave..

 

[Forever The Best]

Yeah this explains it then. What a shame
Hopefully a speedy recovery and try again in 2021.

 

[Strawberry_Jams]

Adam gets on a pinarello time trial bike and turns into Big Mig?

 

[yaco]

Performance history suggests Simon is a better ITTer than Adam, yet Simon lost 35 seconds - Simon is still a fair way off top form.

 

[tobydawq]

Performance history suggests Simon is a better ITTer than Adam, yet Simon lost 35 seconds - Simon is still a fair way off top form.

You don't follow Pogacar on an MTF if you're a "fair way off top form".

 

[johnymax]

You don't follow Pogacar on an MTF if you're a "fair way off top form".

Which one of the two are you talking about?
Nevermind, I know the answer. Simon followed, Adam attacked. Maybe Simon in top form would have dropped Pogačar.

 

[Bonimenier]

This week will be a major disappointment if we don't see a twin attack.

 

[Red Rick]

This week will be a major disappointment if we don't see a twin attack.

And see them lose cause they fail to cooperate?

 

[yaco]

You don't follow Pogacar on an MTF if you're a "fair way off top form".

His lack of consistency suggests S,Yates is far from top form - Top form is running consistently day after day.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

His lack of consistency suggests S,Yates is far from top form - Top form is running consistently day after day.

Well, Simon isn't exactly Mr. Consistency. He was certainly in top form in the Giro '18, yet he was the most inconsistent of all.

 

[yaco]

Well, Simon isn't exactly Mr. Consistency. He was certainly in top form in the Giro '18, yet he was the most inconsistent of all.

Simon is consistent in his form when he reaches a certain level of condition - The 2019 Giro in which he finished 8th is a perfect example - He held that level even up to the stage 21 ITT - It's not like he had particularly good days or bad days - An inform Simon is reflected in his ITT - Deadset average at TA and Catalunya.

 

[johnymax]

Simon is consistent in his form when he reaches a certain level of condition - The 2019 Giro in which he finished 8th is a perfect example - He held that level even up to the stage 21 ITT - It's not like he had particularly good days or bad days - An inform Simon is reflected in his ITT - Deadset average at TA and Catalunya.

You think Simon was on top form in 2019 Giro? I don't know. If he was consistently on top form throughout the 3 weeks, I'd rank him a bit higher than 8th place. Like, you know, winning the Vuelta or dominating the Giro for 2 and a half weeks the year before.

Maybe you are right he isn't at his absolute peak, but I think he is close enough to challenge for the win in the upcoming mountain stages in Catalunya.

 

[yaco]

You think Simon was on top form in 2019 Giro? I don't know. If he was consistently on top form throughout the 3 weeks, I'd rank him a bit higher than 8th place. Like, you know, winning the Vuelta or dominating the Giro for 2 and a half weeks the year before.

Maybe you are right he isn't at his absolute peak, but I think he is close enough to challenge for the win in the upcoming mountain stages in Catalunya.

I clearly stated that Simon wasn't in top form at the 2019 BUT his form was at a consistent level - Posted before TA that he was underdone, hence his inconsistent results, combined with an unsuitable parcours - It is possible he could win a stage at Catalunya but it is consistency which he needs - His ITT at Catalunya was about 20 to 25 seconds below expectations. Let's see what happens this week and maybe the brothers can race each other up a mountain.

 

[jfazendeiro]

Adam really isn't going to the Tour? They will leave someone with this results out of the team?