Teams & Riders Brothers in (crank) arms - Yates Discussion Thread

[Wyndbrook]

The perfect race Simon.

 

[RedheadDane]

 

[AmRacer]

Rumor has it, Yates riding in pink today.

 

[Red Rick]

"If he retires maybe Visma will sign me as replacement"

 

[Cookster15]

Congrats Simon, the perfect redemption for 2018. Won by a courageous and unforgettable ride on maybe the hardest climb used in European professional cycling.

 

[Izzyeviel]

"If he retires maybe Visma will sign me as replacement"

I'm just sad they didn't do the ol' switcheroo for the podium.

Anyway, do we reckon Si will target the Vuelta & worlds now?

 

[Pozzovivo]

I'm just sad they didn't do the ol' switcheroo for the podium.

Anyway, do we reckon Si will target the Vuelta & worlds now?

Going to the Tour and probably long break after. Worlds and Lombardy may be the option.

 

[Blanco]

Grande Yates! I knew he was in very good form right after stage 16. He flew under the radar, which I think helped him very much. He lost a little bit of explosivity over the years, but that was blessing in disguise. He lost a little bit of time in stages 17 and 19, and coming into stage 20 Del Toro and UAE saw only Carapaz as a real threat. Baldato forget how deadly Simon Yates can be on a proper mountain, Del Toro didn't know, he was a kid back then. And everything went according to some kind of a script written before the stage:
1) They let Van Aert into the break
2)They allowed 10 minutes to the break before Finestre
3)Carapaz went full gas from the bottom, dragging only Del Toro. Yates catched later, which falsely indicated that he is a bit weaker than those two.
4)He tried to attack those two multiple times, Carapaz went after him every time, and the first time he didn't, Del Toro didn't react thinking Carapaz will eventually protect his 2nd place, and also that Yates isn't that strong to pose a threat to him.
5)Carapaz was frustrated with the way Del Toro rode, so he went hard after Yates only in last couple of km's. That was too little and too late.
6)Van Aert had enough strength to reach the top of Finestre before Yates, and enough in the tank to pull like a madman on descent and false flat to Sestriere.
7)Carapaz was so pissed of Del Toro that he refused to take one single pull anymore, Del Toro was still afraid that Carapaz will overtake him so he didn;t want to pull either, or he was still being badly advised from the car.
8)Yates, knowing what was happening behind him, when Van Aert finally stopped, was literally flying up the slopes to Sestriere, taking 1.30 min to Chris Harper in only 5-6 km's on 6% gradient.
To me, it was a full redemption for 2018, a full circle closed . It was some kind of a fairytale, a cosmic justice.

 

[CyclistAbi]

And how do we now it's Simon that won?

 

[Rackham]

And how do we now it's Simon that won?

mou would never recover if Adam Yates had swapped kits with his brother and dropped Del Toro on Finestre. The ultimate villainous move and betrayal. Foolproof as well because let's face it, how would anyone know? The perfect deception.

It's why Adam started being dropped over the past week, i.e. he was saving his legs for Finestre... in Visma colors.

 

[Lequack]

I like that they both don't shave their arms

 

[Sciatic]

Grande Yates! I knew he was in very good form right after stage 16. He flew under the radar, which I think helped him very much. He lost a little bit of explosivity over the years, but that was blessing in disguise. He lost a little bit of time in stages 17 and 19, and coming into stage 20 Del Toro and UAE saw only Carapaz as a real threat. Baldato forget how deadly Simon Yates can be on a proper mountain, Del Toro didn't know, he was a kid back then. And everything went according to some kind of a script written before the stage:
1) They let Van Aert into the break
2)They allowed 10 minutes to the break before Finestre
3)Carapaz went full gas from the bottom, dragging only Del Toro. Yates catched later, which falsely indicated that he is a bit weaker than those two.
4)He tried to attack those two multiple times, Carapaz went after him every time, and the first time he didn't, Del Toro didn't react thinking Carapaz will eventually protect his 2nd place, and also that Yates isn't that strong to pose a threat to him.
5)Carapaz was frustrated with the way Del Toro rode, so he went hard after Yates only in last couple of km's. That was too little and too late.
6)Van Aert had enough strength to reach the top of Finestre before Yates, and enough in the tank to pull like a madman on descent and false flat to Sestriere.
7)Carapaz was so pissed of Del Toro that he refused to take one single pull anymore, Del Toro was still afraid that Carapaz will overtake him so he didn;t want to pull either, or he was still being badly advised from the car.
8)Yates, knowing what was happening behind him, when Van Aert finally stopped, was literally flying up the slopes to Sestriere, taking 1.30 min to Chris Harper in only 5-6 km's on 6% gradient.
To me, it was a full redemption for 2018, a full circle closed . It was some kind of a fairytale, a cosmic justice.

Nice summary.

 

[Rockestar_33]

Going to the Tour and probably long break after. Worlds and Lombardy may be the option.

Given Jonas rarely does Lombardia you'd expect those two to be on the agenda.

 

[Red Rick]

So Simon Yates doesn't even have a profile picture on Strava, I don't think he ever really uploads something, but he uploaded his stage 20 ride with one picture:

 

[jmdirt]

S. Yates! Great win!
Send a guy in the break to be there for JV...JV never gets close enough to use him...go for the stage!

 

[Tim Cahill]

Using the follow the EF guy strategy.

Evergreen. Vuelta next for the 3rd?

 

[Red Rick]

Madlad was complaining 3 days ago the team sent him in the breakaway.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Visma got the stronger brother, god damn it

 

[Blanco]

What a year Yates has! I predict one more stage from the break, if the team allows.

 

[Sciatic]

What a year Yates has! I predict one more stage from the break, if the team allows.

I think only if he’s sent ahead as a satellite rider that Vingegaard doesn’t attack to reach him.

 

[Wyndbrook]

Pink nose stripes today for Visma riders celebrating Simon's Giro win.
Coincidence or what!

 

[yaco]

Chuckled when some are surprised its his first TDF win since 2019. Think this is the fourth time he has ridden it since 2019. Two times he was riding in the GC group, so hard to win a stage. Another time he crashed out. All his stages have been won from the break.

 

[Netserk]

Chuckled when some are surprised its his first TDF win since 2019. Think this is the fourth time he has ridden it since 2019. Two times he was riding in the GC group, so hard to win a stage. Another time he crashed out. All his stages have been won from the break.

He had two opportunities in 2023. Also two last year.

 

[Red Rick]

This is the sort of killer instinct and level a lot of domestiques/stage hunter hybrids lack. Like Visma tries to win stages pretty consistently giving the likes of Kelderman and Kruijswijk chances in the Giro, but Yates is deadly as a stage hunter.

He obviously barely did any work in the break, but he had to put in a big effort to bridge, and then he did the final climb only like 15s slower than the Evenepoel group, so in all he still did a top 10 time on the day there. And he's probably only gonna get better during the race.

 

[yaco]

He had two opportunities in 2023. Also two last year.

He's won three stages from the break. He went close in stage one clipping off from the GC group of the 2023 TDF, otherwise, close in 2024 from the break and in 2023 when he went in the break when in the GC battle.