Evans might not strike you as the type to complain without reason... but he doesn't need much of a reason before he will.
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Libertine Seguros said:Evans might not strike you as the type to complain without reason... but he doesn't need much of a reason before he will.
Mshort said:I had the pleasure of riding with Cadel very very early on in his riding career when he was still focussed on MTBs but was doing some criterium riding to sharpen him up. He never complained; never made excuses and he knew how to suffer like a dog and he was only 19 or thereabouts. He's also very quiet, very studious and very serious. He's a really smart guy who knows the strengths and weaknesses of his competitors better than just about anyone else.
My assessment, for what it is worth, is that unfortunately the guy will never win the TdF but he still has a shot at the podium which is no mean feat (he can still win a GT but only if one of the top candidates like Schleck or Contador doesn't show or fails due to injury or illness). He just doesn't have the pysiological make up to be the very best in week three. He can hold his own but struggles to make time up. I always thought he was tailor made for the 1 week races - he's have won the Dauphine if he'd prep'ed for it instead of coming straight off a tough altitude training camp.
WRT team support: his style, developed off the MTB experience has been constant threshold pace and effort on the selection moments of the climbs - invariably near the end of mountain top finishes. That's why he is normally labelled as boring and a wheel sucker. He wants a team that delivers him to the bottom of the last climb in the front and without expending any energy. From the bottom to the top of the last climb he is happy to be in the wheels and go it alone.
IN the past, this strategy has failed when he found himself with the GC lead early on. The team is normally not built to defend the lead. The strength of this new team structure is that they look to have enough strength to sit on the front and chase down dangerous breaks and bring the race back together before the selection moments if required to do so.
Go son. We'll be there barracking for ya.
Angliru said:Excellent post! Almost makes me want to root for him. Almost!
Angliru said:Excellent post! Almost makes me want to root for him. Almost!
18-Valve. (pithy) said:So, what's stopping you?
Angliru said:Just a bit high strung. He'll complain and slap about but apologize shortly afterwards after he's had his hissy fit. Just ask Gesink and that Italian rider he accosted for disturbing Evans' pursuit of a dangerous escapee.
auscyclefan94 said:Ahhh, it is always Evans' fault. You don't have to like the guy but you certainly have a very strong hate for the guy and you make it very clear. Though when you possibly reply to this you will probably mock me like you usually do without just replying to the post.
Mshort said:I had the pleasure of riding with Cadel very very early on in his riding career when he was still focussed on MTBs but was doing some criterium riding to sharpen him up. He never complained; never made excuses and he knew how to suffer like a dog and he was only 19 or thereabouts. He's also very quiet, very studious and very serious. He's a really smart guy who knows the strengths and weaknesses of his competitors better than just about anyone else.
My assessment, for what it is worth, is that unfortunately the guy will never win the TdF but he still has a shot at the podium which is no mean feat (he can still win a GT but only if one of the top candidates like Schleck or Contador doesn't show or fails due to injury or illness). He just doesn't have the pysiological make up to be the very best in week three. He can hold his own but struggles to make time up. I always thought he was tailor made for the 1 week races - he's have won the Dauphine if he'd prep'ed for it instead of coming straight off a tough altitude training camp.
WRT team support: his style, developed off the MTB experience has been constant threshold pace and effort on the selection moments of the climbs - invariably near the end of mountain top finishes. That's why he is normally labelled as boring and a wheel sucker. He wants a team that delivers him to the bottom of the last climb in the front and without expending any energy. From the bottom to the top of the last climb he is happy to be in the wheels and go it alone.
IN the past, this strategy has failed when he found himself with the GC lead early on. The team is normally not built to defend the lead. The strength of this new team structure is that they look to have enough strength to sit on the front and chase down dangerous breaks and bring the race back together before the selection moments if required to do so.
Go son. We'll be there barracking for ya.
Angliru said:Actually in both cases that I gave as examples they were Evans' fault. The Gesink incident he was out of position trying to squeeze by when there was no space for him and he blamed Gesink for cutting him off which Gesink obviously did not. The second one with Righi (sp), he (Righi) was within his rights to slow down the chase of the escapees. Of course Evans didn't see it that way.
movingtarget said:Well he would not be the first rider to get frustrated in those situations. The trouble is, both times it was caught on camera and he was wearing the world champs jersey. How often do these things happen off camera ? You could also say that the two falls in the TDF in 2008 and last year were not his fault. These incidents tend to even out even though the Evans detractors would beg to differ.
AlejandroValverde said:When he(Evans) has to make up some time for his rivals he constantly tries to attack but we can see it only as some clumsy attempt.
When he doesn't have to, he sucks smoeone's wheel and rides passively.
But Evans is a GT rider, who probably deserves most winning any of GT. I would also point Levi or Klodi as such example.
Evans will need a stroke of luck to climb into the podium, without this he will land on 5-10 position
No_Balls said:No one "deserves" winning, specially not a Grand Tour. Either you win or you dont´t.
At least not when you really are a rider who is a jack of many trades and master of none and thinks he can wheelsuck himself to glory.
I know that Cadels fans has invented tons of reasons to WHY he didn´t won and yet those reasons wont stand next to the Cadel Evans chapter in history book of cycling.
AlejandroValverde said:Evans will need a stroke of luck to climb into the podium, without this he will land on 5-10 position
movingtarget said:Evans critics make me laugh. The better Evans ride, the more critical people are. He has ridden the perfect race so far but all one hears is negativity about what may happen in a week or two.
Timmy-loves-Rabo said:only in response to ridiculous comments suggesting he is now the man to beat.
movingtarget said:Evans critics make me laugh. The better Evans ride, the more critical people are. He has ridden the perfect race so far but all one hears is negativity about what may happen in a week or two.