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not clean, but not mendacious, not immoral nor in anyway a bad person. upstanding champion in this sportMaxiton said:So says Tyler Hamilton, here. Probably few in the peloton no more about who's dirty, who's clean, and what's what in pro cycling, than Tyler Hamilton. TH is naming names and kicking behinds, and he says Cadel is clean.
What do you say? Is there a clean champion, and is it Cadel Evans?
I dunnoblackcat said:stupid comment from Hamilton.
George also said, that in the Les Essarts TTT, Evans was pulling stronger than anyone he's ever ridden with.PACONi said:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/more-sport/tyler-hamilton-says-lance-armstrong-needs-to-come-clean-for-his-own-peace-of-mind/story-e6frfglf-1226497727051
From the above he bases his comments on what Hincapie has told him:
"We were never teammates, you know I raced alongside of him for quite a long time and some of my ex-teammates, George Hincapie being one of them, had told me that Cadel was a super hardworker obviously, but he was clean," Hamilton said.
Which George? The doped one or the 'clean' one?Ferminal said:George also said, that in the Les Essarts TTT, Evans was pulling stronger than anyone he's ever ridden with.
I'm not sure there was ever a clean George! He lied for two decades, what he says is more or less worthless, to me.PACONi said:Which George? The doped one or the 'clean' one?
TBH, I wasn't really commenting on the validity of the statement by TH. I had read it a day or two ago, and at the time, thought 'how would he know?' My post was to fill in the gap of how TH came to the belief that Evans is clean.
Is GH believable? TBH it probably depends on the topic. What's come out in the reasoned decision hasn't improved my opinion of GH as a person.
Agreed. I don't believe he stopped in 06 of his own free will after getting away with it for so long. A guy who can abuse an ex-teammates wife for being anti doping doesn't self reform IMO.Ferminal said:I'm not sure there was ever a clean George! He lied for two decades, what he says is more or less worthless, to me.
Just impossible Cadel was clean in 2007, he was too close to Contador for that, was he clean he wouldn't have been able to challenge him in the third week.Dear Wiggo said:I would love for Cadel to be clean.
If GL cannot keep up with his contemporaries back in the day with a higher VO2max, how does Cadel beat his contemporaries - given they are still doping, with a lower VO2max?
Heart says, I wish. Logic says no. Was a painful realisation.
could one possibility be they were really juiced to the eyeballs on straight EPO back in the day?Dear Wiggo said:I would love for Cadel to be clean.
If GL cannot keep up with his contemporaries back in the day with a higher VO2max, how does Cadel beat his contemporaries - given they are still doping, with a lower VO2max?
Heart says, I wish. Logic says no. Was a painful realisation.
Evans for me was believable because he had bad days. I don't recall him ever having a bad day in TdF 2011.Ferminal said:Don't forget getting dropped alongside Frigo on Passo Coe.
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